We Need To See The Evidence

Did Donald Trump or his associates collude with the Russians to try and influence the 2016 election? Did the Obama Administration spy on Donald Trump or his associates? How long can both sides extend out these investigations? Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent for the Washington Examiner, joins Dan & Amy to sort through all the speculation and get the operative questions surrounding the investigations.

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The bigger issue with Trump's campaign manager that no one is talking about

"This speaks to leadership. Leaders set the standards for their organizations and then they hold their organization accountable." Kathleen Murphy of the Illinois Opportunity Project appeared on FOX Chicago this morning to discuss Donald Trump's campaign managers battery charges.

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Craig Wall: Joining us to talk about it Kathleen Murphy of the Illinois Opportunity Project. Kathleen, good to see you, as always. Kathleen Murphy: Good to see you. Craig Wall: So the Trump campaign say they’re not going to fire Lewandowski. Trump says that he is absolutely innocent of these charges. What do you make of all this, and what sort of impact is this going to have? Kathleen Murphy: I don’t know if it’s going to have an impact with his voters. They tend to support him no matter what, but this speaks to leadership; I mean, leaders set the standards for their organization and then they hold their organization accountable to those standards. Republicans should be paying attention to it, because their complaints have been there for eight years, we’ve had a president who wouldn’t hold the IRS accountable for targeting organizations that were related to political and religious… because of their political and religious affiliations, or he wouldn’t hold the State Department accountable for the death of an Ambassador and three navy seals. This goes to leadership. Craig Wall: Let me ask you, Ted Cruz’s also come out to say what this really is is a great example of a culture surrounding Trump’s campaign - a campaign he believes is based on insults and things of that nature, and attacks. What do you think of that? Kathleen Murphy: Sure, I mean it could have all been cleared up. It could have all gone away with a simple apology. That’s all Michelle Fields ever wanted; instead they attacked her reputation. They lied about what happened. They called her delusional, like you said. She had no choice but to defend herself; and how do you defend yourself against a man who’s midnight Tweets make headline news? You have to have your story validated. Craig Wall: The other thing we’re talking this morning – that’s not the only bad news for the Trump campaign. There’s a former strategist for the pro Donald Trump super PAC that wrote an open letter yesterday, pretty much asking Trump supporters to back away from the candidate, explaining why she believes she is not who he says he is. That he’s grossly unprepared to be commander in chief, and goes on and on and on about how she isn’t convinced he even wants the White House at all. How damaging can something like this be? Kathleen Murphy: I don’t think it’s damaging, again, with his supporters, because they support him no matter what; this becomes a bullet point under his laundry list of negatives, right? What she did – it’s the concern people have about his ability to be commander in chief, and she speaks and I agree with her; these Easter attacks were horrible, and it really underscored how little he understands about he Middle East. Craig Wall: Right, and what we’re talking about here; her name is Stephanie Cegielski, and I think we’ve got her quote here for you. She says, what set her off was an essay. This essay was a tweet that Trump put out on Sunday night, and it read “Another radical Islamic attack, this time in Pakistan, targeting Christian women & children. At least 67 dead, 400, injured”. And he ends it by saying “I alone can solve.” And this set her off, because she said “No one can solve that”. Kathleen Murphy: No, but it took away any credibility he had from the APAC conference. Craig Wall: Alright. Kathleen, thanks for being here. We appreciate it, as always. Kathleen Murphy: Thank you.


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Exclusive: Dan & Amy Interview Pres. Candidate Gov. John Kasich

Just before winning big in Ohio, Dan Proft & Amy Jacobson interviewed Presidential hopeful, Governor John Kasich.

Just before winning big in Ohio, Dan Proft & Amy Jacobson interviewed Presidential hopeful, Governor John Kasich. Full transcript:

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Exclusive: Dan Proft Interviews Pres. candidate Sen. Ted Cruz

Dan Proft's exclusive interview with Presidential Candidate, Senator Ted Cruz.

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Dan Proft: So we had the opportunity to have your father on the show last week, and what a woo he is, but one of the things that he said that I want to get your take on – by the way, actually, we have suggested to him after talking to him for a few minutes, that perhaps the ticket should be Cruz and Cruz in the general election, and he was concerned with the 12th Amendment, which of course you’re familiar with; I assured him that if it was a Cruz – Cruz ticket in the general, then you could dispense with Texas’ electoral votes because you’d win by such a big margin. Ted Cruz: I will say, my dad is someone who will speak from the heart, and when you’ve seen freedom taken away firsthand like my dad has seen, it’s very real and it’s very personal to him, and it’s one of the real blessing, being the son of an immigrant who fled oppression in Cuba, that it makes you realize that our freedom is fragile and it’s really precious. Dan Proft: Now, one of the things that he said about you is that Ted learned from his parents to be a servant-leader. It seems to me in the debate on Thursday night, you sort of made mention to that implicitly when you talked about Donald Trump asking for people to pledge allegiance to him, and he had it reversed that this is a job audition where the President of the United States is a servant to the people, and I wonder of you could expand upon what your dad said, and that moment in the debate where you suggested Donald Trump had it reversed. Ted Cruz: Our rights don’t come from government, they come from God almighty, and sovereignty doesn’t reside in the ruler, but rather sovereignty resides in ‘we, the people’, and the Constitutions serves, as Jefferson put it, ‘chain to bind the mischief of government’, and I think there had been far too many political leaders in Washington, both Democrats and Republicans, who lose sight of that; who believe that they are a ruling class; that’s much of the corruption we’ve seen that has resulted 19 trillion in debt, has resulted in the special interest getting fat at the people’s extent. And I believe we need a leader who recognizes that he works for the people. I approach this every day, asking for your support, working to earn your support, because we need a president who is fighting for the hard working tax payers each and every day rather than the entrenched interest in Washington. Dan Proft: One of the other in theory entertaining moments of the debate on Thursday night was your close, where you talked about the humble beginnings of a Ted Cruz and a Marco Rubio, and a John Kasich, and maybe not so much Donald Trump. It was a little bit of a Yakov Smirnoff what a country kind of close, but I wonder what you were trying to do there reminding the electorate about where you and Kasich and Rubio came from, as compared to Trump. Ted Cruz: Well, look, it is a remarkable thing that you’ve got three of the four people on the stage come from very humble beginnings; as I note it, there was the son of a bartender, the son of mailman, or in my case, the son of a dishwasher, and most of the countries on Earth, that would never be the case. Most of the countries on Earth, any potential leader of the country would have been born in the wealth and power of the aristocracy, and that’s simply the way most of the world works, and didn’t mean that as a ding particularly on Donald Trump; I was more making a quip that I hoped to get a laugh, but was also making the point about the unbelievable opportunity America provides, that anyone starting with nothing can do anything, and that really is unique in the world. Dan Proft: On the political front, were you disappointed at all that Dr. Ben Carson decided to fall in with Donald Trump instead of with you, particularly given your similar faith traditions in terms of appeal to evangelical voters? Ted Cruz: Sure, of course I was disappointed, and then Ben Carson is a good man, but everyone’s got to make their own decisions and their own judgments, and I suppose everyone makes those decisions for different reasons. What my focus really is, is on energizing and mobilizing conservatives, and on unifying Republicans. You mentioned at the outset of the show that at this point become effectively a two man race. There are some 65-70% of Republicans who recognize Donald Trump as not the best candidate to go head to head with Hilary Clinton; that if we nominate Donald Trump, Hilary wins; that she just wallops him in a general election, and if Hilary wins, we lose the Supreme Court for a generation, we lost the Bill of Rights, our kids are buried in debt for yet four more years, and jobs and economic opportunity stays illusive and hard to achieve, and so for those 65-70% of Republicans who recognize Donald Trump is not the best nominee, what we’re seeing is more and more uniting behind our campaign, because our campaign is the only campaign that has beaten Donald repeatedly; we beat him now 8 separate times in 8 states all over the country, and we’re the only campaign that can beat him; the other candidates have no mathematical possibility of becoming the Republican nominee, and I’ll tell you, Illinois in particular is very much a battle ground. Right now, today, Illinois is neck in neck between Donald Trump and me, and so you don’t want to see Donald Trump as the nominee. If you don’t want to see Hillary Clinton win the general election then I ask you to stand with us – even if you have been supporting someone else – the only way now to beat Donald Trump is for us to stand united, so I ask you to stand with us, and that is happening more and more all over the country. Dan Proft: Now, with respect to Donald Trump, do you think it is important to make the distinction between Donald Trump the candidate, and Donald Trump’s supporters, kind of Donald Trump the movement, if you will? Because if you are the nominee, regardless what happens on Tuesday, if you are the nominee and you run the table after Tuesday, when it’s all mano y mano race ostensibly, that you’re going to need those Trump voters that have come out and really jumped the Republican Primary turnout to record levels. Ted Cruz: Absolutely, and I’ve said from the beginning that I’ve brought a lot of people into the process, and that is good and beneficial, and the people who are supporting Donald, I understand why they are; they’re ticked off, they’re ticked off at Washington, they’re ticked off at politicians who keep lying to them, who keep making promises and doing the exact opposite of what they say when they go to Washington. And they’re fed up with the corruption of Washington – the bipartisan corruption – I agree with every bit of that sediment, and you’d better believe that I want every one of those voters showing up in November so that we can finally change the direction of this country, and now what I think a lot of those Trump supporters are realizing when they look at his record more closely is that if you’re fed up with the corruption in Washington, the answer is not to support Donald Trump, someone who has been enmeshed in that bipartisan corruption for 40 years; that Donald Trump is the system, Donald Trump is Washington, and big business, and if you’re fed up with that, the answer I believe is to go with the candidate who has demonstrated over and over again that he will and he has stood up not just to Democrats but to leaders in our own party. That’s what it’s going to take to stop the corruption – is a president who recognizes he works for the American people, for the hardworking taxpayer, not the Washington’s special interest, that Donald has been part of for the last 40 years supporting liberal democrats, and supporting establishment republicans; instead, we need a president that doesn’t stand for Washington, but stands with the American people. Dan Proft: One of the things that seems to me makes you a little bit different than the candidates in this field, past and present, is your willingness to talk about values. It’s funny to me, in Chicago here, you think New York values are bad. We listen to Rahm Emanuel, as I call him, tiny dancer, talk about Chicago values all the time. It seems like the left is very willing to talk about values – whatever their values are – and sometimes we, as conservatives, are afraid to speak in the vernacular of values in the public arena. Your nod, is it a recognition that maybe people out there are looking for something transcendental, maybe the most important thing to them isn’t just your marginal tax rate, it’s about kind of what binds us together as a people. Ted Cruz: I think that’s exactly right. That’s who we are as Americans, and one of the greatest lies that the media tries to sell is they try to tell conservatives that America doesn’t share our values; that America has become this left wing progressive utopia; and that’s just fundamentally false. This country is and remains a federal country. We remain a country that was built on free market principles, on constitutional liberties, and on Judeo-Christian values; that is what built America into the greatest country in the history of the world. Now the media and Hollywood and the political left tries to do everything they can to convince the American people we should be afraid of our values. We should be afraid to stand and defend lives, we should be afraid to defend marriage or religious liberty, and I don’t think that’s right. I think we can recognize that every life is a precious gift from God, and that every human being has constitutional rights that the government should be protecting, rather than violating, and I think those are common sense values that resonate across the heartland. Resonate across the state of Illinois, and resonate all across the country. Dan Proft: I want to get your response to one of the critiques, what we hear from callers supporting Donald Trump and other candidates from this show is, ‘Well, one of the critiques of Ted Cruz is he doesn’t get along with his colleagues, so is he going to get anything done?’ I had the opportunity to speak with Jim DeMint, President of the Heritage Foundation and former US Senator, the other day, and he made the point that when he was in the Senate, he didn’t always get along with leadership very much either because he wanted the Republican Party to stand for conservative values and follow principles and policies that flow from those values, and sometimes the leadership didn’t want to chart that course. It seems to me there’s a fundamental misunderstanding of politics that a lot of people in our movement have, and I wonder if you’d comment, and that is about likeability all the time, rather than the hard work of aligning interests, of building coalitions around different issues, and the coalitions maybe different with respect to different parts of a policy agenda; one is trying to pursue, but it’s not being Mr. Congeniality, or Mr. Popularity, it’s about aligning interests. Ted Cruz: Well, that’s right, but it’s even stronger than that, and Jim DeMint is a good example. Jim is a very good friend of mine, and he was an extraordinary senator, but when he was serving in the senate, he was despised; especially by leadership, they despised him. And it’s not that Jim is an unpleasant man – in fact he’s a very soft-spoken principled individual – but you have to remember, Washington, the career politicians in both parties, they have been sticking it to the American people year after year after year. It’s why we’re so angry, because they don’t keep their word and they don’t intend to keep their word. And what makes you ‘unlikeable’ in Washington is if you actually keep your word to the men and women who elected you. What Jim DeMint did and what I have done was simply go there and say ‘I’m going to do exactly what I said I would do’. I told, in my case, the people of Texas, ‘I’m going to fight with every breath in my body to stop the disaster that is Obama Care; I’m going to fight with every breath in my body to stop amnesty, which is taking jobs from millions of Americans; I’m going to fight to stop the death that’s bankrupting our kids and grandkids and I’m going to fight to defend the bill of rights and the second amendment of religious liberty.’ Now that by in large is most of what the Republican members of congress promised, but when they get to Washington, they break those promises, and if you keep those promises, that’s being unlikeable, that’s what they get mad at. It’s not treating people with anything less than civility or decorum or respect. You know, you look at the debate, the last several debates we saw Donald Trump and Marco Rubio yelling and insulting each other and making fun of each other’s body parts. I think that has no place in politics, and I certainly don’t respond to those insults in kind. I keep focus on substance, but the thing to remember, if someone is well liked in Washington, it’s because they’re going along with Washington selling you out, and to change it – you know someone else who was despised in Washington was Ronald Reagan – if you look at the Reagan revolution – remember, in 1976, Reagan had primaried Gerald Ford. Now you want to make Republican leadership loathe you, come within an inch of beating the incumbent Republican President in the primaries. They hated him! Now Reagan, likewise, he wasn’t mean about it, he didn’t insult people, but he said ‘We have to stand for something’. This is not a fraternal order, we need to actually defend shared principles!’, and they hated him for it, but what gave Reagan his strength is he didn’t rely on Washington – he took the case to the people, and that is very much the basis of our campaign as well. If we’re going to break the Washington cartel, it’s going to be the grass roots, and so my strength are millions of men and women across this country that are fed up with a Washington that doesn’t listen to us, that doesn’t protect our jobs, that doesn’t protect our interests, and that is selling our rights down the river. And the way we turn it around is just like the Reagan revolution, with a grassroots army from the people. Dan Proft: Yes, and I think we can all unify as a party around the idea that we appreciate your lack of interest in Donald Trump’s body parts. Before we let you go – I know you have a busy schedule, and a lot of states to check out before tomorrow’s elections, just a closing thought for Illinois voters. What’s the value proposition for President Ted Cruz? What’s he going to do in the first 100 days, so people know what they’re getting when they go to the polls in Illinois tomorrow and pull the lever for Ted Cruz? Ted Cruz: I think this election is about three things: it’s about jobs, it’s about freedom and it’s about security. My number one priority is jobs and economic growth. We have the lowest percentage of Americans working right now than any year since 1977, and the people I’m fighting for are the single moms that are right now waiting tables and working 2-3 part-time jobs, and you’ve had your hours forcibly reduced to 28-29 hours a week, because Obama Care kicks in at 30 hours a week. The people I’m fighting for are the truck drivers and steel workers and plumbers and mechanics. You know, the men and women with calluses on your hands, the union members who are just getting hammered right now; your wages haven’t gone up, and yet the costs of living keeps going up and up and up. The people I’m fighting for are the students who are coming out of school with loans up your eyeballs, wondering, are you going to get a job? What does the future hold for you? And the media tells us this is a new normal, we have to accept that! That is simply not the truth! If I’m elected president, we will repeal Obama Care, we’ll pass a simple flat tax and abolish the IRF and we’ll lift back the regulations that are killing small businesses, and the effect of that, we’re going to see millions of high paying jobs, we’re going to see wages rising for everybody, and we’re going to see young people coming out of schools with 2-3-4-5 jobs opportunities. Secondly and critically, freedom; the Constitution and Bill of Rights hang in the balance. The Supreme Court hangs in the balance. Donald Trump has told you he will cut a deal with Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer to arrive upon Antonin Scalia’s replacement. I am not going to compromise away your religious liberty. I’m not going to compromise away your Second Amendment. Instead, every justice I’ve put on the court will defend the Bill of Rights ferociously for your children and for mine. And then finally, security; we need a president who will stand by our friends and allies, who will stand with the nation of Israel – not be neutral – like Donald Trump has promised to be, but stand un-apologetically with Israel, and who will stand up and defeat our enemies, as president, I will rebuild the military just like Ronald Reagan did; we will rebuild the military so that it remains the mightiest fighting force on the face of the planet, and we will utterly destroy ISIS, we will defeat radical Islamic terrorism, and we’ll have a president that doesn’t undermine our fighting men and women. That doesn’t undermine our police officers and firefighters and search responders, but instead a presidents who stands with our soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines, who stands with our cops and our firefighters, and has their back. We can do all of that if we just go back to who we are, and that’s what this election is about. Illinois is a battleground. We are neck in neck with Donald Trump. I ask you to stand with us, and if we stand together, we’re going to win this nomination and we are going to win the general and bring back jobs and economic growth and prosperity to this nation once again.

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Pastor Rafael Cruz: In a One-on-One Race Ted Beats Trump

Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of Sen. Ted Cruz, chatted with Dan & Amy about the campaign in studio this morning and took calls from listeners.

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Dan Proft: Dan Proft and Amy Jacobson, and Amy, you just heard at the top there, Carly Fiorina – big endorsement yesterday for Ted Cruz – she was at a rally with him, saying that it’s time for the party tonight around Cruz; also, Ted Cruz was in North Carolina, part of these Competing Town Halls Fox News Channel did in which he was interviewed by Megyn Kelly, a ruckus crowd, and he had some good news about tonight’s debate. Megyn Kelly: You said the campaign has gone to the gutter. What do you make of it? Ted Cruz: Well, listen, I think everyone is fed up with personal insults, with just ad hominem attacks; listen I have no views whatsoever on any part of Donald Trump’s anatomy. Amy Jacobson: So it’ll be anatomy free? Thursday night GOP debates Dan Proft: I think yes, because I can’t stomach any more discussion on Donald Trump’s anatomy either. We’re pleased now to be joined in studio by the man who taught Ted Cruz everything he knows. He’s Ted Cruz’s dad, Pastor Rafael Cruz. Pastor Cruz, thanks so much for joining us! Rafael Cruz: Dan, great to be with you, and Amy, I don’t if I taught him everything he knows, I don’t believe that. Dan Proft: Right, I guess that the story is that he memorized the Constitution when he was in the womb, right? Rafael Cruz: Well, he memorized the Constitution at 13 years old, but I didn’t have anything to do with that. We introduced him to an organization called the Free Enterprise Institute; first, he was reading all sorts like Adam Smith, and John Locke, and von Mises, and Hayek, and Bastiat, and Milton Friedman. Dan Proft: The kind of reading that every pre-adolescent does. Rafael Cruz: Every fourteen year old does. But then, this group created a group of five kids; they called them the Constitutional Corroborators; Ted was one of those five; they hired a memory expert and got those five kids to memorize the Constitution, and for the next four years, my son Ted gave approximately 80 speeches on free market economics and the Constitution. Amy Jacobson: At the age of thirteen? Rafael Cruz: From thirteen to seventeen. Dan Proft: Amy, he must have had a beat off the girls, because nothing gets girls into them faster than free market economics. Amy Jacobson: It’s hotter and sexy, yeah, I mean, it’s cool. Rafael Cruz: I met some of his high school buddies not too long ago, and they said, ‘You know, Ted was kind of weird; while we talked about football, he talked about Ronald Reagan’. Amy Jacobson: So what do you think of this large growing coalition behind your son? Obviously, Glenn Beck, Carly Fiorina; word is today that Jeb Bush might be supporting your son publicly for the first time. Rafael Cruz: I have not heard that; that’s news to me, but that’s welcomed news; sounds great; I think, what happens is, it quickly becomes a two man race. I think it is obvious now that it’s going to be Trump and Cruz, and the sooner we get to a two man race, the sooner we’re going to get somewhere. I think what happens is people of faith, conservatives, constitutionalists, are realizing that they have to coalesce about the one candidate that can just take America forward, and that candidate, I’m convinced, is my son, Ted Cruz. Dan Proft: You know, it’s interesting, there has been some pushback on Cruz saying ‘Well, he’s too focused on religion; he speaks too much about the Judeo-Christian values upon which this nation was founded, that it limits its appeal’; interesting tweet I just got from Rob Jewar: ‘I’m an atheist and I made over 300 calls yesterday for Ted Cruz; BS he doesn’t reach a range of voters’; and I wonder, since you speak a lot about this matter of Christians getting involved in the political process, how you respond to this idea that Ted Cruz has a limited reach because of his focus on traditional values and Constitutional principles? Rafael Cruz: Well, I think that this tweet that you received speaks volumes about it. Ted is a champion of religious freedom; now the first amendment of the Constitution gives us freedom of religion, and that means you also have the freedom not to believe, or the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and the government needs to stay away from our spiritual life, actually from our lives, so together; like Ronald Reagan said it, ‘Government is not the solution; Government is the problem’; we don’t need more government, we need less government, and one of the things that my son wants to do in the White House is cut down the size, power and scope of the Federal Government, just restrict it to what the Constitution says; article 1, section 8 of the Constitution only enumerates 18 powers to the Federal Government. Anything that is not in article 1, section 8, the Federal Government has no business being involved in, and all those powers should go to the State. Dan Proft: See, you’re playing possum, you memorized the Constitution too. Rafael Cruz: A little bit. Amy Jacobson: I think he taught you the Constitution. So you said he wants to cut down the size of government. Oh, go back to the Constitution. Did he teach you about the Constitution? Rafael Cruz: Absolutely; I actually got involved in the Constitution from being inspired by him and going to all these speeches where he had memorized the Constitution, and actually prior to that; when Ted was nine I was very involved in the Reagan campaign, and I helped mobilize millions of people of faith to help elect Ronald Reagan, whom I considered the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln, and so when my son was nine, he got a dose of conservative politics from a Christian worldview, everyday for a year, at the dinner table. So that was his indoctrination into conservative politics, and of course, the Free Enterprise Institute - those four years immersed in the Constitution, and free markets, and limited government, and the rule of law – shaped his life. Dan Proft: And you’re getting a dose of indoctrination into Illinois politics; the last day you were in an African-American church in Dalton, in Bensenville yesterday, you’re leaving here and you’re going in Central and Southern Illinois, so you’re doing a lot of campaign stops on behalf of your son, Senator Cruz, and I wonder what you find most enjoyable about traveling the country being a surrogate for your son, and what you find least enjoyable about the process? Rafael Cruz: I think the most enjoyable thing is meeting people; America is such a wealth of different personalities, different people, different ideas, and I’m a people person, just like my son; I enjoy being with people and getting to know people; you know, life is all about relationships, and the more relationships we can have, the more people we get involved with, the more we understand one another. I would say the thing that is the least enjoyable is the grueling timetable. Sometimes we go 26 hours a day. Amy Jacobson: And from here you’re going to Missouri. Rafael Cruz: That’s correct, and then to North Carolina. Amy Jacobson: And sometimes you said you wake up and you don’t know what state you’re in, or what city? Traveling so much… Rafael Cruz: That’s right. Well, it’s a different hotel every night. Dan Proft: Keeps your spine on your toes. Rafael Cruz: Absolutely. Dan Proft: Where do you see the race in a Ted Cruz versus Donald Trump choice? What’s the value proposition of that choice? A vote for Ted Cruz, as compared to Donald Trump, is a vote for what? Rafael Cruz: I would say, first of all, if you look at Trump, you don’t know what you’re getting. You don’t know what you’re getting because nobody knows what he believes; I mean, he changes from day to day, he even says ‘Well, I can change, I change all the time, I can change to anything I want, I can change in a moment’. I think Jimmy Carter put it clear when he said ‘Well you know, if I had to chose between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, I would choose Trump, because Trump is malleable; that means you can mold him into whatever you want’, and he said then, ‘But you know that guy Ted Cruz? He really believes what he says’; so I think that’s the great difference; Ted is a constitutional conservative; with Ted you know exactly what you’re going to get; Ted has done 100% of what he said he was going to do before he got elected, so you can take his word to the bank. I think it boils down to one word, and that word is trust. You can trust Ted to do what he said he’s going to do. Dan Proft: We’re talking to Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of presidential candidate Ted Cruz, could we hold you over for one minute and take some calls? We got some callers I think that want to talk to you as well. Why don’t we do that and we’ll come back and take your calls with Pastor Rafael Cruz. Dan Proft: Dan and Amy, we’re talking to Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of Ted Cruz, and Pastor Cruz, I don’t know how to break it to you, but there’s a lot of people that think you may have a political career ahead of you; text ‘I like Ted Cruz, but I love his dad’; now text from 779, ‘Not a Cruz, supporter, but his dad sounds like a really good guy and with a cool accent; you should narrate Ted’s ads’; maybe a voiceover career, maybe a political career. Rafael Cruz: I’ll tell you, I’m having a lot of fun just traveling around the country, meeting people and making the case why Ted Cruz should be our next president. Amy Jacobson: And it’s – real quick – a great story how Ted met Heidi when they were both working for Bush. Rafael Cruz: Absolutely; Ted was domestic policy advisor for George W., and she was economic policy advisor, and Ted got stung the day she came to work, and he says it took him three days to get up the courage to ask her for a date. Five months later, they were married. Amy Jacobson: That’s great. And six marriages came out of that campaign? Rafael Cruz: Eight marriages came out of that. Dan Proft: The Ted Cruz joke, right? Rafael Cruz: Yeah, he said, ‘I don’t know whatever may say, for us W. will always be a uniter, and not a divider’. Dan Proft: Now, to that point, and because Ted Cruz, he shows humor, he’s kind of a dry sense of humor, which I kind of appreciate, but there’s so much been said about Cruz, that he isn’t liked in DC, and he’s not a likeable person, and all of that. How do you respond to those charges? Rafael Cruz: Well, let me tell you why he isn’t liked by some of the people in the Senate and the House, and it is this; unfortunately, there are too many corrupt politicians in both parties; they want the gravy train to continue, they want to preserve the status quo, and you probably heard my son say that he is running against the Washington Cartel – all these corrupt politicians in both parties; and they don’t want anything to change. You know, we got people in the Senate that have been there for 30 years, and they want to be there another 20; they don’t want to relinquish that power; we need to change; too many politicians think that we work for them, when in reality, they work for us; one of the things that I love about my son, he truly has a servant’s heart. He understands servant leadership; he wants to go to the White House to be a servant of we, the people, a servant of every American; he understands that that’s his role – to work for the American people, not the other way around. Dan Proft: That’s a little bit esoteric, but that’s how I view Trump versus Cruz – philosopher king vs. servant leader – and there’s a big difference; by the way, in terms of ballot appeal, Ted Cruz has the support of Caitlyn Jenner and me; that can’t get bigger tent than that. Let’s go to the lines, let’s go to Shaun, in Elmwood Park; you’re on Chicago’ Morning Answer. Rafael Cruz: Hello, Shaun! Shaun: Mr. Cruz, it’s really a privilege, it’s a privilege to speak to you, and I have to tell you, I’ve been appreciating your son for the fundamental capitalist and the originalist views he has, since he’d been Bush’s handpicked stooge for the Senate seat he now holds. Now it is in that problem that we have, that blind allegiance to a party that has allowed the bastardization of capitalism and the erosion of the citizen’s civil liberty. So with that being said, in the even he is not the nominee, I will not support Trump, under no circumstance, and I am goingto ask you to ask your son to run as an originalist, to run as a third party, because Mr. Cruz, it is through us compromising our fundamentals that has lead this to this path, where senators like Mitch McConnell are worth 40 million, or they collaborate with Harry Reid, or they go and become lobbies after their careers. Dan Proft: Alright, Shaun, thanks for the call and the questions; so the question about Reagan running as a third party if he’s not the nominee. Rafael Cruz: Let me say this, I do not like the idea of a third party, because having a third party is handling the presidency to Hillary Clinton, and Hillary Clinton will destroy this country, and so I think the idea of a third party is really a bad idea, but I’ll tell you what; my son is not running to lose to Donald Trump. If it gets to a two man race, the polls show that Ted would beat Donald Trump by seventeen points. So we’re running to win; we’re not running to see Donald Trump in the White House, but to see Ted Cruz in the White House, and if it gets to be a two man race, Ted Cruz will be the next President of the United States of America. Dan Proft: Alright, Kent from Montgomery, you’re on Chicago’s Morning Answer. Kent: Pastor Cruz, your son has my vote… Rafael Cruz: Thank you, sir! Kent: But if we can see a Cruz cruise ticket as true Chicagoan, you will get two votes from me. Rafael Cruz: Well, I’ll tell you what, in the first place, that’s unconstitutional; you know you cannot have the President and the Vice-President from the same state; that is not constitutional, so… Amy Jacobson: And you know the Constitution. Dan Proft: Relocate to Oklahoma! Rafael Cruz: And actually, I’m having too much fun just supporting him and seeing him rise; I think that he would make a wonderful President, and I know he would abide by the Constitution, and the rule of law, and as I said a minute ago, he will be a servant to every American man, woman and child, and get the heavy boot of the Federal Government from off their necks, so that people can achieve their dreams – by cutting down taxes, cutting down regulations, and just allowing everyone to fulfill their dreams. Amy Jacobson: Don’t you think he would make a great US Supreme Court Justice? Just in the chance that Donald Trump wins, I would hope he would be that or Attorney General. Rafael Cruz: Well, obviously he’s a constitutionalist, like so is Mike Lee, and so is Ron Paul. They are the three strong constitutionalists in the Senate, but I’ll tell you what, my son is running to win. And if people of faith, if people of courage, if conservatives, constitutionalists, people that want to see their dreams fulfilled and see an environment in America where everyone can achieve their dreams and leave their children and grandchildren a better American, the man that can help provide the environment for that to occur is Senator Ted Cruz. Dan Proft: Let’s squeeze another caller, and we Pat in Midlothian. Hey, Pat. Pat: Hey, reverend Cruz, I just want to let you know I’m behind your son; it’s about time we get somebody who has the respect for the Constitution, and I plan on working the phones for him in Homer Glenn this weekend. Rafael Cruz: Well, thank you so very much, I’ll tell you what, we need to all unite. You know the Bible says in Acts 1:14 that those 120 that were in the operating room were together in one accord. We must be in one accord. I want to ask every person in the State of Illinois to coalesce around Senator Ted Cruz. If we unite, we will get America back to what America was destined to be – a land of opportunity for every American, without distinction that everyone will have the opportunity to see their dreams realize. There are so many young people that feel that when they finish college they’re going to have to go home, because they can’t find a job. How about if that changes by getting rid of taxes and regulations, and the interference from the Federal Government; someone leaves college with a half a dozen job offers, and they can receive entrepreneurship, again, create millions upon millions of new jobs by creating small businesses. I’ll tell you, that is the environment that Ted Cruz will provide for every American. Dan Proft: Alright, he is Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of Ted Cruz; Pastor Cruz, thanks so much for joining us today; safe travels as you make your way throughout Illinois, and then to the other states that primary on Tuesday. Rafael Cruz: Thank you, Dan and Amy; great to be with both of you, and God bless you, and God bless America, and God bless the great state of Illinois!

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