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“Trump Is Toast”

Does the left think using identity politics is convincing anyone besides their base? How can Trump lose by five million votes but still win re-election? Dan and Amy discuss with The National Review’s John Fund about the upcoming election in 2020.

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Gender Inclusive Puberty Guide

Should puberty be gender inclusive? Are schools guiding children through puberty based on feelings rather than scientific and biological facts? Why won’t people let research be done to see the consequences of the trans ideology? Catholic Women's Forum Director, Mary Rice Hasson joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Manufactured Media Crises

Is the media looking for pretext to destroy Trump? Trump is telling the caravan to turn around and he's sending troops to the border for emphasis. How is this going to end? Why aren’t the migrants taking refuge in Mexico as offered? If Trump doesn’t take care of this will he lose the midterms?  TheStream.org’s John Zmirak joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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We Don’t Beat Them By Joining Them

If Roseanne gets cancelled so should Samantha Bee!


It’s someone you’ve never heard of who has a show you’ve never seen who said something vile about Ivanka.

Ok. Yeah. Fire what’s her name too.

And if Bob Iger is going to apologize to Valerie Jarrett, when is he going to apologize to President Trump?

Who? For what?

He’s a network executive you’ve never heard of whose opinion you otherwise find irrelevant who employs on-air personalities who have said profane and ignorant things about POTUS without consequence.

Ok. Yeah. Apologize!

Empty outrage is not synonymous with standing up for yourself or putting in the fight for others.

It’s just an uninspired substitute for having standards.

What Valerie Jarrett termed a teaching moment during one of MSNBC’s signature hastily-assembled, bigot-baiting town halls is actually a trap for conservatives.

Jarrett wants you to give in to the Left’s lack of principles by abandoning yours.

Outrage one-upmanship is a two-player game, you see.

Ask yourself: do you think we beat them by joining them?

Or is the move to be who they say they are but are not and, in so doing, give lie to who they say we are and are not?


Elder And Proft On Kanye, Race, And Trump

Is the Democratic Party detrimental to black Americans? Can the GOP convert minorities without dismantling the welfare state? What effect does the left-leaning media and academia have on culture and opportunity? In this special episode of Against The Current, Bestselling Author and nationally syndicated talk show host Larry Elder, 'the Sage of South Central' joins Dan Proft for an in-depth discussion on race, culture and identity politics in America. Elder also explains Trump's likeness to Reagan and why Kanye is good for conservatives.


The Excused

G.K. Chesterton observed that, “Men do not differ much about what things they will call evils; they differ enormously about what evils they will call excusable.”

In DC, what is excused depends on who is committing the evil.

The standard of acceptable personal conduct is inversely proportional to one’s partisan value.

Ted Kennedy was indispensable whereas Al Franken was expendable.

Two different eras, yes. But consider, if Ruth Bader Ginsburg drowned a woman, do you think the Left would demand her resignation and give Trump another SCOTUS nomination?

The use of political capital to quantify character lays bare the hypocrisy of ruling elites but, worse, it results in the steady degradation of the rule of law by raising our tolerance level for the excesses of said ruling class.

Thirty years ago, Gary Hart’s POTUS ambitions were felled by an affair and Douglas Ginsburg’s Supreme Court nomination derailed by a history of marijuana usage. Both would be treated as veritable Quakers by today’s standards.

Senator X or Governor Y is to be exempted from the laws we must follow much less any code of common decency we may conceive. He is too important to this or that movement.

Excusing evils to advance political ends steadily supplants the rule of law with the rule of men and the rule of men with no character at that.


Questions For The Left

I’m an inquisitive sort.

I want to understand the Left but I have questions.

-          When it comes to your concern that law enforcers not be above the law, is that just for beat cops or does it extend to senior level officials at the nation's most powerful law enforcement agency?

I ask because I haven’t heard the date announced for the Andy McCabe protests.

-          Is your concern about instances of alleged excessive use of force by police entirely contingent on the race of the alleged victim?

I ask because I can’t find the GoFundMe page for the family of John Albers in Overland Park, Kansas.

-          When it comes to treating the Constitution like an Asian buffet, are their limits to the application of the sanctuary designation?

I ask because Effingham County, Illinois, voted to make their jurisdiction a sanctuary county for 2nd Amendment rights to protect the rights of their residents to protect themselves.

-          I understand you to be stalwart defenders of a free press now. Could you share your conversion story?

I ask because of your silence when Obama Attorney General Eric Holder surveilled and subpoenaed Fox News reporter James Rosen and when Patrick Fitzgerald imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller in the Scooter Libby case to cite but two examples.

Thank you in advance for helping me distinguish your virtue from your virtue-signaling.


Advancing Conservatism In The Era Of Trump

Can Facebook use all their analytics to figure out how many conservative pages have been taken down compared to liberal ones? What would Buckley say about President Trump’s time in office so far? Is anyone willing to sit down with someone they completely disagree with anymore? Senior Editor at National Review, Jay Nordlinger joins Dan and Amy to discuss. 

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“White Guilt”

Compare the attention paid with respect to the police-involved shooting in Sacramento and the over 700 black men killed this year on the south and west sides of Chicago. Why the emphasis on one and not the other? Does victimization now translate to power in our society? Is the progressive left advocating for people to rely on victimhood rather than their own competency? Author and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Shelby Steele joins Dan and Amy to discuss. 

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Proft: Good morning, Dan and Amy. Coming to you live from SVM in Arlington Heights, part of our AM560/Signature Bank Business Tour. And you know, we talked to our friends Diamond and Silk earlier in the show, Amy, and... Jacobson: I'm still upset with our conversation, because I'm upset what's happening to them...Facebook's deemed them "unsafe" and yanked them! Proft: Not near as upset as they are, which is great that they're fighting back. But remember Candace Owens, Red Pill Black? Jacobson: Oh yeahyeahyeah! Proft: We've had her on the show before. She was on with John Stossel recently, and she had some good things to say, as you know, again, people that are speaking out and fighting back and providing a different perspective that goes against the....caricature that DC Press Corps wants to make of the black community and the orthodoxy of opinion, political opinion within the black community. But here's something she said that I had trouble with, and this is a problem, kind of, with the young and the old, no matter what demographic you're discussing. Candace Owens, talking about the black conservatives who preceded her. Owens (from tape): I think why some of these black conservatives have not been successful in the past is because they cared too much about what people thought. We're doing it differently, we are talking a lot of trash, we are very sassy. Owens (clearly different clip): The African-American community is clearly suffering from a poor memory. Owens (first clip): We want people to know, you can feel free to call me an "Uncle Tom", you can feel free to call me an "Auntie Tom", it does not affect me. And you wanna know why? Because I actually read the book, and Uncle Tom was the hero. Proft: ...yeah, I like the fearlessness, and the sassiness, as she describes it, but the idea that the likes of Walter Williams, and Thomas Sowell, and Bob Woodson, and Shelby Steele were too concerned about what people thought about them, that's why they were, quote-unquote, "unsuccessful"? In point of fact, I'd suggest that Candace Owens read some of the OTHER books, about what those black conservatives did, inju...during Jim Crow, through the Civil Rights era, and for the last 50 years in fighting this fight and providing the intellectual firepower for...not just black conservatives, but for conservatism generally. It's annoying to me when people who just got on the scene think they have a thought that nobody else has ever thought, they're doing something that nobody else has ever done. As Truman said, "There's nothing new in this world, just the history we don't know," and you're more effective if you recognize that. So, a little lesson to some of our allies that maybe are sometimes as impetuous as they are sassy. And with that, it's a perfect transition to one of those forefathers that I just mentioned. He is Shelby Steele, he is the author of numerous books and often talked about on our show. And the latest book is "Shame: How America's Past Sins Have Polarized our Country", and Shelby Steele who now, because you know we talked to Eli Steele, his son (Jacobson: Oh yeah, that's right!), "How Jack Became Black" his new documentary, now instead of calling Eli Steele "the son of Shelby Steele", we call Shelby Steele "the father of Eli Steele", right Shelby? Steele: That's right *chuckling*, that's absolutely right. Proft: Well, thank you so much for joining us, I know you're a native South sider, and you've addressed the issue of violence in black neighborhoods and urban centers generally and Chicago specifically, and did so recently on Laura Ingraham's show, and so I suppose we should start there, because of course violence still afflicts the neighborhood you grew up in, the region you grew up in, the South side of Chicago, and the West side, just Chicago generally, and, how you compare that to the attention paid to, for example, that police-involved shooting in Sacramento a couple of weeks ago. Steele: Well, what's interesting is that these shootings...Trayvon Martin I guess was one of the first, and Michael Brown, and there are many others at this point, and they're all...there's this sudden explosion in the culture, "what does this mean?", and there's this sort of angst that comes out...while the statistics say that in 2016, 762 black...largely black boys were killed, murdered, JUST on the South side of Chicago. Well, to pay atten...there's nothing WRONG with paying attention to Trayvon Martin, or any of these other incidents, and they SHOULD be examined for what they represent, what caused them, so forth. But the issue is of what...violence inside the black community is so much more profound, and so much more devastating. It's just taking away a generation of young people, and destroying them. And so, you know, this is...what the point, I think, is...why does this happen? Why the emphasis on one and not on the other? Well, the ones...when you're talking about Trayvon Martin, you're scratching the ground looking for a case to build around his victimization, his racial victimization, because victimization has become power in American life. "That I'm a victim is my power in this society, it's what I can claim and gain attention and all sorts of perks and preferences and so forth! It's my power. I have faith, literally have FAITH, not in myself, but in my victimization." And so when we look out at the world, we duplicate that some. "A white policeman shooting a black? That's my victimization, that's my power, I like that! I'm gonna be excited, I'm gonna be on TV, I'm gonna rally! But when we're just killing each other on the South side of Chicago, who cares?" Jacobson: Well, what was life like (Steele groans as the end of his previous statement)...well, Mr. Steele, what was life like growing up on the South side of Chicago? Steele: ...I never really saw a gun, a pistol, till I was probably 17, 18 years old. I don't mean that we didn't fight, we did a good deal...a good deal of that, there was a kind of a ritual we went through, but I think that boys, I think, universally go through, but there was...number one...there was also no breakdown in family. Every kid in my neighborhood was...except I remember there was one family where the husband had died. Other than that, everybody had a father! (Jacobson: Wow...) And everybody knew who that father was, and some were obviously better than others, but they were all fathers, and they were all upholding a certain view of life, and demanding that we be responsible, demanding that...despite the fact that we lived in segregation...that we make something of ourselves. And so many of us...we were all very poor, but many of my peers coming out of that community have done very well in life. One owned some department stores in Texas, another was the head of the FBI for the Western United States, another is a well-known biology professor at the University of Michigan. These are all people who came out of...came up off the South side, and they did very well for themselves, because they believed their life was in their own hands, and they weren't...they weren't trying to sell themselves to America as victims. They were trying to sell themselves as competent individuals. Proft: I want to...so a piece you wrote for the Wall Street Journal, which is recast in your book "Shame", your latest book, speaks of "The Culture of Deference", and I tagged it as one of the four key op-eds in the 2016 Election Cycle, this was in November of 2016 if I'm remembering correctly, you wrote this piece. And then I saw a talk you gave at the Heritage Foundation, where you talked about "Madame Bovary Liberalism". And I wonder if you could just connect the dots for us that the Madame Bovary Liberalism that led to this Culture of Def...of Deference that sort of afflicts us today, and victimization being a feature of it as you're describing. Steele: Mmhmm...it's early in the morning, but I'll go to work! Proft: Okay...sorry! Get the synapses firing! Steele: Yeah. Well, Madame Bovary was one of the first Modern characters, she was...the novel by Flaubert, "Madame Bovary", was one of the very first Modernist novels, by which is meant that she was a character that was focused on her own angst, and really couldn't see beyond herself. And she was a fundamentally selfish and empty woman, who'd...who lived in pursuit of one sort of illusion or dream after another. To me, American Liberalism in the last 50 years has BEEN Madame Bovary. It has sustained itself with one empty and failed illusion after another. I can remember from school busing, which completely wiped out the American Education system, to Affirmative Action, to every sort of...to war on poverty programs, and the Great Society programs. All of these dreams that are, that were...where we sort of bring all black people into some sort of parity with all other human beings. All of them ABSOLUTELY fail! Disastrously fail! Not only do they fail, but they have ruined many of the good things that were present...once present in black American life, this sort of self-reliance, this struggle against the odds and so forth. And it's instead encouraged this idea of dependency...and you know...manipulation, where you're constantly using racism as a charge to get whites in line, and go along with this program. The other side of this, of course, is whites, and I think, white guilt, and by white guilt I mean something very specific. White guilt is not REAL guilt! I don't get up this morning and feel guilty about the Eskimos. I'm not expecting white people to get up this morning and go "Oh my God, what about all the black people in America?" That's not the way that human beings and societies work. What we...what happens is...what has happened in America, is that this idea of victimi...of black victimization has become so powerful, that whites are now terrorized! And there's no other word for it, they are TERRORIZED at the prospect of being stereotyped or stigmatized as a racist. To have that happen to you is to be literally, completely, marginalized, and rendered impotent. And self-hate is the only sort of honorable response to that situation. So white guilt is, again, what sort of played into Madame Bovary's pathologies, and it made her Modern. But, because when are afraid of being stigmatized like that, you act guiltily, even when you do not feel genuine guilt. Most whites do not feel GENUINE guilt about black America. That would be a pretty sophisticated thing to feel! And so I don't think that's it, and on the other hand, I think whites are absolutely terrified of being seen as a racist and being stigmatized with old American sin. And therefore, most white Americans today act pros...act guiltily towards the black community, and always act anguished, and always trying to do something, and meddle, rather than saying the traditi...and here's the tragic reality nobody wants to face; yes, we were profoundly oppressed, it may have been the worst instance of human oppression in all of history...so we were oppressed...but now we're FREE. And we can...we do...we can do anything we want to do, including be the President! And so we somehow have to stop our reli...blacks, our reliance on our power of...that we have with white people, keeping them in fear of the stigma that we...that we wield against them. Because then you just get this symbiosis of white guilt on the one hand, black dependence on the other hand. And that's what, it seems to me, we're stuck in today, can't seem to get out of it. Proft: All right, that's pretty GOOD for this early in the morning, I'll tell you that, that's a...that's the kind of dissertation you get from Shelby Steele...by the way, "White Guilt", not just just a phrase, also the name of an excellent Shelby Steele book that I've mentioned often on this show as required reading. Shelby Steele, an author, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute, a longtime academic. His latest book is "Shame: How America's Past Sins Have Polarized our Country", you wanna pick that up as well. Shelby Steele, a real pleasure, thanks so much for taking the time to join us. Steele: Well, thank you so much for having me, appreciate it.

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Society As One Big College Campus

Liberal virtue signalers don’t believe in thoughts and prayers but think a button on their lapel will change the world? The actors and actresses are talented but who gave them the misplaced moral authority? Screenwriter, essayist and author, Andrew Klavan joins Dan and Amy to discuss the glitz, glamour, and virtue-signaling at the Oscars. 

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The Left Treating Rights As Whimsical Privileges

Trump moves to ban bump stocks, but how is he going to do that and what kind of precedent would that set? Does calling for a ban of AR-15s go down a slippery slope in allowing the government to arbitrarily determine what guns are considered good or bad? Are gun control advocates blaming the weapon and not the systematic failure at every level of government in the Florida school shooting? Executive Director of the Illinois Gun Dealers Trade Association, Todd Vandermyde joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Culturally Anxious Voters Will Decide 2018 Elections

In 2018, the GOP’s continued standing as the majority party in America will turn on the participation of culturally anxious voters.

The people who appreciate the distinctions between liberty and libertinism.

The people who understand the implications of erasing the lines between decency and indecency.

The people who are respectful of the time, money and lives of others.

The people who recognize identity politics for the cultural poison that it is.

The people who reject the age of de facto segregation everywhere other than the bathroom.

The people who still talk of men and women without the “cisgender” modifier.

The people whose lives are defined by the love of family and friends not the popularity of a hashtag campaign.

The people who will listen to rather than shout down an opposing viewpoint.

The people who see things for what they are rather than redefine them through a distorted political lens.

The people who believe in being their brother’s keeper but don’t believe they should be forced to be his sugar daddy.

It won’t be a single issue. It’s not going to be a question of one accomplishment or one failure.

It will turn on whether or not Republicans let cultural Marxists run roughshod over people in their offices, their churches, and their kids’ schools.

The GOP’s majority status will turn on its ability to serve as political Xanax to the culturally anxious.

The Real Deplorables

Al Franken, accused by several women of inappropriate behavior said he would resign despite his repeated assertions he did nothing wrong. But if he did nothing wrong---why is he resigning? Because he is a spineless preener, hypocrite and sycophant. He can’t bear the idea that his colleagues would shun him---or that people would look at him askew. Pat Hughes calls out the real deplorables in this week's Two Minute Warning.

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Sleazy Politicians Face The Reckoning

Who knew Matt Lauer was such a sleaze? NBC. That's who. Which news celebrity, politician celebrity or Hollywood celebrity is next? What is Nancy Pelosi to do when gender runs into race?  Are we done being lectured about morals by these Hollywood stars yet? Screenwriter, essayist, and author of The Great Good Thing: A Secular Jew Comes to Faith in Christ, Andrew Klavan joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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The End Of Academic Freedom On College Campuses?

Bret Weinstein, the Evergreen State professor who was bullied by students, argues the end of academic freedom is near per the strategic genius of the postmodernists. Should we be deeply worried about our education system that is indoctrinating students with a single world view that America is the enemy? Do teachers deserve more of the blame? Should the government take any steps to protect speech on campuses? Columnist, author and Senior Fellow for the Hoover Institution, Peter Berkowitz joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Media's Hypocrisy On Sexual Abuse Allegations

Is Franken already back? Is the "iconic" (per Nancy Pelosi) Conyers on his way out? How are certain people in the journalism world getting promotions when they are now getting accused of harassment and “were known” to engage in sexual misconduct? Investigative Journalist and author of “The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think and How You Vote,” Sharyl Attkisson joins Dan and Amy to discuss. 

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Dan Proft: Top of the morning, Dan and Amy and Al Franken’s back and John Conyers may be on his way out Amy. Amy: Oh yeah, Al Franken stepped down yesterday with only local reporters from Minneapolis after he’s been hiding out for ten days. Say that he’s sorry but he is going to continue to go to work. Al Franken: I can’t say that that hasn’t happened. I take thousands and thousands of pictures, we sometimes (indecipherable) in chaotic situations. I can’t say I haven’t done that and I am very sorry if these women experienced that. A: So he can’t say whether or not he’s touched women’s butts when they pose for pictures. D: Sure. A: He doesn’t remember touching that one woman’s buttocks, but he can’t say whether or not it’s happened before. D: You take thousands of pictures, you can’t keep track of everyone you grope and everyone you don’t grope. I mean who can keep track of all that? A: Body parts are in different places on different people, Dan. D: There’s no question about it, it’s a real conundrum Senator Franken finds himself in as does John Conyers. Now it’s interesting, we just talked to Noah Rothman from Commentary. He suggests Conyers should step down because, I didn’t realize this because he’s got he believes he’s losing his faculties like he’s got early onset-well not so early A: He’s got dementia. D: He’s an old man, but yeah he’s got dementia A: He’s had it for years, and people are protecting him. D: Well protecting him over the weekend on the Sunday talkies was Nancy Pelosi the iconic John Conyers she told Chuck Todd on Meet the Press. Chuck Todd: You said there’s now a zero tolerance. John Conyers, what does that mean for him? Is he in or out? Nancy Pelosi: Let’s say we are strengthened by due process. Just because someone is accused and was it one accusation, is it two? I think there has to be John Conyers is an icon in our country. He’s done a great deal to protect women. The Violence Against Women Act which the left wing right wing is now quoting me as praising him for his work on that and he did great work on that, but the fact is, as John reviews his case, which he knows which I don’t, I believe he Chuck Todd: Why don’t you- Nancy Pelosi: I believe Chuck Todd: How is it that- Nancy Pelosi: Excuse me, may I finish my sentence Chuck Todd: Sure, sure Nancy Pelosi: I believe that he will do the right thing. Chuck Todd: And is the right thing what, resign? Nancy Pelosi: He will do the right thing in terms of what he knows about his situation, that he’s entitled to due process but women are entitled to due process as well. Chuck Todd: He got it, he took advantage of a situation where he had an- the rules of Congress, and I know you guys wanna change these rules, but he got to hide his settlement, he got to, his accusers had to go through all sorts of craziness, so why is he entitled to new due process in this case? Nancy Pelosi: Well I know, we are talking about what we have heard. I’ve asked the Ethics Committee to review that. He has said h’d be open, he will cooperate Chuck Todd: Do you believe his accusers? Nancy Pelosi: Excuse me? Chuck Todd: Do you believe John Conyers’ accusers? Nancy Pelosi: I don’t know who they are, do you? They have not really come forward and that Chuck Todd: You don’t know if you believe the accusations? Nancy Pelosi: That’s for the Ethics Committee to review, but I believe he understands what is at stake here and he will do the right thing. D: Yeaaah, when political interests run into your erstwhile feminism, right Representative Pelosi? Yeah, by the way, there’s a celebrity perv apology generator now, have you seen it? A: No, I haven’t. D: This could also be used by members of congress. A: Celebrity perv policy- what is it? D: Celebrit perv policy generator, it’s a widget that some people created, Rob Sheridan, Scott McCaughey, Dana Schwartz- For example, this should be laminated in like a wallet sized card that members of congress, the DC press corp, and Hollywood could carry around with them. I’ll give you an example, here’s how you apologize. It’s sort of like what you heard from Franken, some of these women have experienced something that they didn’t enjoy, I’m sorry for that. “As someone who grew up in a different era, harassment is completely unacceptable, especially when people find out about it. At the time I believed that my sociopathic manipulation of the 22 year old in my office was consensual and of course now I realize my behavior was wrong. In conclusion, I will not change anything about my actions or behavior.” Pretty good. There are some good ones there. There’s some specific for the Golden Globes parties… A: Right Oh great. D: Yeah it’s very very good, very creative. Alright, for more on this topic of a serious nature, we’re pleased to be joined by our friend, Cheryl Atkinson, investigative journalist, author of The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think, and How You Vote Cheryl Atkinson: Thanks for having me. D: So you penned a piece for The Hill, how the sex abuse allegations, some of which we were just talking about there with respect to Franken and Conyers but many others- exposed the media’s hypocrisy on Trump. Explain your contention. C: Well that headline was picked of course by The Hill, you know we don’t write our own headlines D: Right C: That was their takeaway. My takeaway sort of my intention was how did certain how are certain people in our profession being promoted and hired in the first place when there are widely known things about them. What does our profession value even as we’re writing about the shortfalls of important political figures for example what’s happening in our own house. And I highlight the case of the New York Times Reporter Glen Thrush who’s under investigation for you know misconduct allegations and before the New York Times hired Glen Thrush, they already knew from Wikileaks documents that he had pre approved improperly in my view and unethically, preapproved stories with Hillary’s campaign manager and done things like that, called himself a hack in internal emails jokingly but only half jokingly and yet this is a guy they thought was fit to hire at the New York Times and promote to Politico to report fairly and impartially on the president and the things that he has written about the president are very similar to as you see in my article to the things that he’s being accused of. So it’s just a question I wanted to raise about about our profession. A: As a journalist and someone who’s worked in several newsrooms, have you ever experienced sexual harassment? C: Oh my gosh I mean by what we’re defining today as sexua harrassment I think when I talk with my friends you wonder where to begin in that discussion because- constantly, but I would say it didn’t hurt me in terms of you know I made I think women learn how to kind of deal with it, handle it, get around it, and move on so that it doesn’t hurt their careers, and I think I come from a time, I’m 56 years old when and I’ll just tell you one quick story, I don’t think I put this in any off my books, who cares, but my first job when I was 20-whatever, early 20’s, 21 or so the general manager who I think is deceased now by the way, but this is down in Florida, called me in when he heard I was getting married and he threw $40 down on the table and told me to buy a wedding present for myself and I thought “hmm okay” and I picked up the cash and he said “buy yourself a bikini” and he chuckled and then he says “take a picture of yourself in, bring it back to me, show me the picture.” A: So creepy C: And I remember going home telling my finance, my husband now “do you think he’s serious?” my husband’s like “yes he’s serious don’t obviously don’t do it” but it was just awkward I mean from awkward to then one of the quick one in Orlando interviewing for the job the assistant news director when he was gonna hire me as a producer and I said well will I have the next opening as a reporter which I really wanted to be and he pointed out of the newsroom and said “see that girl there?” I said yeah he said “you know how bad she wants to be a reporter? She would lay down on this desk and let me f her right now.” He used the word. And again I’m like “why is he saying this to me?” He also invited me to spend the night at his house, and I kept saying “I only live an hour away I can drive” and you know just things like that are commonplace I think in our industry. D: Going back to the media, well sticking with the media I guess I should say and particularly someone that’s a couple of generations ahead of you, but Charlie Rose. This may be the biggest name to fall so far and again we find out when one woman comes forward and sort of breaks the seal and then people follow, but a lot of people protected Charlie Rose, is that fair? Or were intimidated by Charlie Rose? I mean part of this is trying to figure out where the lines are of culpability. Isn’t it if you’re an enabler or protector you just kind of legitimately describe yourself as being intimidated and not wanting to have your career suffer as a result of stepping in when someone’s acting inappropriately. C: Well when everybody around you so admires somebody as they do or did Charlie Rose and speaks of him so highly while under their breath saying with a chuckle “what a partier he is” you know I never heard by the way these allegations against him with women or with unwanted advances with women, I heard he stays up all night, parties like a 20 year old and chuckle chuckle chuckle you know and are you going to be the one if something does happen to you again in your profession that everybody looks at because you said something bad about you know the fun guy on the block that everybody likes and this is I would say it’s not terribly uncommon again there’s way more things I’ve heard and I think as other people would say shoes that will fall because it’s just so incredibly common and I’m not talking about rape, I’m talking about improper and perhaps unethical activity and I think there are distinctions between all of these things but in our industry these sort of unwanted advances and pressure that sort of thing I think is exceedingly common. D: All right, Cheryl Atkinson, she is of course a celebrated investigative reporter, journalist the book The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think, and How You Vote Cheryl thanks as always for joining us, appreciate it. C: Thanks for having me

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Is culture everything? Are we losing sight of basic truths? Why has the left been effective in shutting down the conservative message? What are they doing that social conservatives are not? How has the Republican Party rendered themselves useless in the culture war? Senior fellow at the American Principles Project, Maggie Gallagher joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Dan Proft: Pleased to be joined by Maggie Gallagher, who is a Senior Fellow for the American Principles Project. And she's written an excellent piece in "First Things" that we referenced earlier in the week, about politics and culture, essentially arguing that those who suggest politics is downstream from culture don't have it quite right. So let's explore that with Maggie Gallagher, who joins us now. Thank you so much for being with us, appreciate it. Maggie Gallagher: Well, it's great to be with you, thank you, good morning. Proft: My perspective on this is that culture is everything, and so I concede your point that politics is a part of culture, which is what you write in your piece. But does the nature of politics being a part of culture mean that we aren't ultimately...or shouldn't ultimately be focused on...kind of...the proverbial "culture war"? Gallagher: No. It means right now, we're living in an America where everything is being de-normed, so that people who kind of believe in some simple basic truths like "we're born male and female", "we have a need for men and women to come together so they can raise the next generation together, that idea is called marriage", these things are now being de-normed as hateful. And it's obvious that the Republican Party is increasingly useless in terms of doing anything about this. And so the question is...what do we conclude from that? I would agree absolutely with the people who say culture is really important, and those of us who are people of faith have to figure out how to build creative subculture communities that transmit our own values and our own face to the next generation. The only thing I don't agree about is that we should somehow get out of politics. We took a really serious look...what I really believe is the reason that social conservatives are easily betrayed and not very politically influential...the most important reason, there's a lot of reasons...the most important reason is we're not really in politics. We just...we TALK like we're in politics. And people would go on television and say political things, but if you follow the money, what you find out is that we, unlike the Left and particularly the gay Left, have not built political institutions. So we looked at every organization in America that says it has some public policy goals around marriage or religious liberty. And we asked "Okay, how much of your money do you spend in politics, affecting who wins an election?" That's what politics is. It's not pastor organizing, or 501c3 voter guides...fundamentally, these are all fine things to do, but fundamentally they circle around...are you actually going to go into politics and elect your heroes, and un-elect your enemies? And the answer is, 97 cents of every dollar we spend to affect public policy is a non-profit, 501c3 apolitical strategy. And the Left doesn't do this, by the way, they don't do it at all! You just take the top three socially liberal organizations, Emily's List, Planned Parenthood, and Human Rights Campaign. And in the last election cycle, they spent $70 million just in *inaudible* money, and social conservatives spent less than $10 million. So you know, every single organization in this country...so I would say we should give politics a chance, before we conclude that it's useless. Right now, it's a problem for everyone, the grassroots and the donors have nowhere to go, because the organizations that claim to be political or are standing there and trying to be political aren't actually in politics. So you know, that's just a fundamental hole that has to be filled if we're not going to be persecuted in America as the ideology that our ideas are like racism and hatred unfolds. Proft: Just to give a concrete example of this, you do in your piece, but I want you to connect the dots for us, about...if you want to fight for this culture, if you want to fight for your value system, then you necessarily have to be involved politics, because the other side is aggressively pursuing it, and they're happy to roll right over you as we see being done. But the example you give about how the Left does it versus how conservatives don't do it effectively is a former Colorado Congresswoman, Marilyn Musgrave. Give the Marilyn Musgrave case study to us. Gallagher: Well that's just so...at one point in my life I was probably the major spokesman fighting gay marriage. So I watched a lot of this unfold. So one of the things I've watched unfold and I learned from...everything I know about politics, I say, I learned from watching how the gay Left actually countered me. So, Marilyn Musgrave was a Colorado Congressman, she was one of the original sponsors of the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would have said marriage was one man and one woman, didn't say anything else, and would have prevented the Supreme Court from doing what it did to overturn our efforts in state. But, the Left targeted her for her opposition to gay marriage, but they didn't fight her on that in her district. They knew she was representing her voters. So instead they just raised a bunch of money, and they dumped it in negative ads on her, on all kinds of issues, including as she told me personally, she said "They even ran...they created fake pro-life organizations, to demonstrate, or to claim at least, that I wasn't pro-life enough." And they did it in one election cycle, and they knocked down her numbers so she barely hung on, and then they came back in the next election cycle and they defeated her. And everyone in Congress...although the voters even in her district probably don't know...they said the reason she lost is that she was a spokesman against gay marriage. And it's an extremely effective way of shutting down one party's issue. So the Democrats are all in, and they're pro-gay marriage, and equality and love wins all, and the Republican Party is kind of silent and shy. They can't quite be for gay marriage because they know their voters won't tolerate it, but they won't speak because they don't want to become targets for the Left. Jacobson: Well, how has the LGBT community tightened its hold on culture shaping? Gallagher: Well, they...one of the reasons why politics is more important for conservatives than it is for liberals is that liberals dominate most of the other means of culture creation. So one of the things I can tell you because I was there is that the problem wasn't really that our messages don't work, it's that they effectively shut down our ability to get our message out. So the more effective I was, or we were, we were working together in state, so once we won California and Prop 8 in the year 2008, suddenly I was unable to get on Fox News. Suddenly I was unable to get on conservative radio...you know, the major stations, the big boys with the big advertisers. And it took about another year before suddenly I wasn't able to get on CNN, and eventually I could only go on MSNBC, where they would openly treat me with contempt if I showed up. So, you know I'd like to give you the other examples of other people, but the capacity to control what you see through Hollywood or Madison Avenue...and the big new thing is corporations are now joining social liberal. So corporations that...the Chamber of Commerce is the most effective and most public component of conscience protection for traditional beliefs in the state. And people are afraid if they say things, that they'll lose their jobs. And that'll be the lesson. And of course I could talk about what's going on at colleges and the academies, if you look at it. So politics, so what I learned when I was very young and Ronald Reagan was elected president is that politics is the way that you can break through that messaging shut down, and learn that you're not alone, that other people have the same views and values as you do. And I think that is one reason why it's important to recognize this Ron Dreher, this Benedict Option, that we are facing new threats to Christianity, and to do a lot of things; build faithful communities who exemplify Christ, but one of the things we can't afford to do is retreat from politics. You have to learn how to do it better, how to do it real, how to do it as a subculture and a minority that really does need new protection, because the fact that President Trump is not aggressively pursuing the same strategies to use government to oppress us doesn't mean the next President won't do it if there's not legislative protection. And without a real political movement, the GOP is going to be useless, it's not going to act. Proft: She is Maggie Gallagher, she's a senior fellow at the American Principles Project. A piece that you should check out, that I tweeted, @DanProft, is "Culture is Downstream from politics", which you can also find at FirstThings.com. Maggie, thanks so much for joining us, appreciate your time. Gallagher: Thank you, buh bye.

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