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Is Pope Francis A “Progressive” Pope?

Should conservatives share Pope Francis’ statements on abortion with liberals who think they have a “progressive” pope? Does Pope Francis want open borders for the Church and the United States? Professor of Political Science at Grove City College, Paul Kengor joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Living In A False Reality

Is the medical community afraid of standing up to trans people? Is allowing people to transition to another sex not helping anyone’s problems? Jamie Shupe, the nation's first officially designated nonbinary person, joins Dan and Amy to explain why the trans orthodoxy and gender fluid politics is a sham.

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What Paradigm Shift?

Do we need a Lifetime special or a HBO documentary to get anyone to pay attention to the CPS sexual abuse scandal? Why are the mayoral candidates and Chicago press corps shrugging their shoulders at an outside law firm being hired to investigate over 1,000 cases of abuse against children? Dan and Amy discuss the cowardly cover given to Chicago Public schools from the city’s elite.

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The Sexual Revolution’s Final Frontier

The sexualization of children will be televised.

It’s on Hulu in the form of a masturbating grade schooler in the series “Pen15.”

It’s on “Good Morning America” where an 11-year-old drag queen danced provocatively to the approval of the hosts and studio audience alike.

Gore Vidal would be a prude by the standards of today’s Caligulan culture.

In 2015, an admitted pedophile argued in Salon.com that, “Society preventing children from engaging in sex play and romance play is akin to preventing them from learning to swim.”

Today, the response from New York state legislators to sex trafficking is to legalize prostitution

The SJW response to sex abuse by Catholic clergy is to remove the celibacy vow for priests.

The response to the latest sexual abuse charges against R. Kelly is for his attorney to assert an implicit consent defense.

The sexual revolution is on the cusp of conquering its final frontier.

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The Plot Thins

Are the calls for an FBI investigation just another delay tactic for Senate Democrats? Will the vote go on tomorrow? Should Kavanaugh attend the hearing no matter if Ford shows up or not? Is this another example of the left exposing who they truly are?  HotAir.com's Ed Morrissey joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Double Standard Applied To Republicans

If you thought the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing was a disgraceful circus, what should we expect for the next hearing? Should this hearing even be happening? What are the consequences if Kavanaugh doesn’t get confirmed? Would Republicans be retreating from one fight and setting themselves up for the next one? Senior Editor at TheFederalist.com, David Harsanyi joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Catholic Church Playing Damage Control

Who is Cardinal Cupich’s curious house guest? Has there been a culture of cover-up for decades in the Church? How can the integrity of the leadership in the Church be restored? Catholic Women's Forum Director, Mary Rice Hasson joins Dan and Amy to discuss why lay people need to step up.

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Cupich Behaving Like A Politician

Cardinal Cupich says the abuse scandal is not about sex. Why is Cupich acting like a politician? What was Cupich’s response to the criticisms of his interview on NBC that he had read to all the churches in the diocese? Dan and Amy are joined by the object of Cardinal Cupich's convenient ire, NBC-5 reporter Mary Ann Ahern.

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Tell Me About The Rabbits, Blase

“The Pope has a bigger agenda. He's got to get on with other things, of talking about the environment and protecting migrants and carrying on the work of the church. We're not going to go down a rabbit hole on this.”

Those were the words of Cardinal Blase Cupich of the Archdiocese of Chicago in the wake of credible accusations that Pope Francis had guilty knowledge of sexual misconduct within his inner circle and did nothing.

The Pope’s response to the assertion he did nothing is to say nothing.

The Cupich and Francis responses are telling in their familiar ring.

Both are ideological.

Cupich’s flacking is of the Weinstein variety: my work is too important to indulge distractions about my behavior.

Pope Francis’ imperious silence makes it clear he doesn’t answer to you.

The posturing of these two is more contrived than Jimmy Swaggart’s “I have sinned” sobbing.

Francis and Cupich are conducting themselves like politicians in damage control to protect their personal ambitions rather than as faith leaders tending to a wounded flock to protect the Church.

Cupich’s misdirection and Francis’ silence aren’t going to fly.

Nothing short of a complete accounting and a full reckoning for the horrors that were unleashed and excused inside the Catholic Church is acceptable.

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Cupich's Race Baiting Defense Of Pope Francis

Reuters suggests conservatives are the problem for escalating the war against Pope Francis in his mishandling of the sexual abuse of children. Really? Do Cardinal Cupich’s comments show how serious the Catholic Church is taking the sexual abuse scandal? What bigger agenda could the Church have than protecting the most vulnerable? Dr. Kurt Martens, Professor of Canon Law at Catholic University, joins Dan and Amy to discuss.

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Institutional Abuse

Sexual abuse of children whether it is in the Catholic Church or Chicago Public Schools should and does spark outrage. But from who? There are calls for a reckoning in both institutions, but what happens when the stories blow over or the interest, especially in CPS, just isn’t there? Dan and Amy discuss the disturbing reports coming out of Pennsylvania detailing the over 70 years of abuse against the backdrop of the most recent allegations surfacing from CPS.

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The Worst Accountability Money Can Buy

Rather than doing the right thing, the politicians in charge want you to believe the situation is complicated. They hope to convince you the solutions are difficult. But whether or not children are safe is a straightforward question. CPS and the politicians in charge have either done the right thing or done the wrong thing. Pat Hughes explains it is that simple in this week's Two Minute Warning.

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#MeToo Meets Madigan...Again

Can #MeToo bring down Madigan, the longest-lording State House Speaker in U.S. history? Where are the virtue signaling, “champion for women” Democrats in the House calling for Madigan to resign? Is the problem in Springfield the culture? Chicago Tribune Editorial Board Member, Kristen McQueary joins Dan and Amy to discuss Madigan’s latest scandal and other rumors circulating in the statehouse. 

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Rahm: Protects Adults, Fails Students

“Laws on the books are not being enforced, people need to be charged.” Is systemic sexual abuse of children enough for Chicagoans to hold their political leadership accountable? Is this another indictment of the CPS system that’s not made for the kids but for the adults? Former General Counsel of DCFS, Liz Yore joins Dan and Amy to discuss the bombshell Chicago Tribune Investigative report.

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Exclusive: Sexual Harassment Victim Speaks Out

"It’s a certified terrible frat house," is the way a sexual harassment victim coming forward today describes Springfield. The woman, who will only identify herself as "M," joined Dan and Amy for an exclusive interview detailing the sexual harassment allegations she will make against a leading state legislator. “This has gone on probably for the last four to five years where I’ve been harassed and blackballed and threatened" she shared.

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How Rauner Became The "Worst Republican Governor In America"

In December, National Review dubbed Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner the "worst Republican governor in America," a label he has not been able to shake. On this edition of Illinois Rising, Dan Proft and Pat Hughes talk to the author of that piece about what earned Rauner that title, and what to make of Rauner's primary race with state Rep. Jeanne Ives moving forward. Proft and Hughes also discuss the bombshell sexual harassment allegations in House Speaker Mike Madigan's political office, and calls for him to resign from his post.

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Bipartisan Combine In Springfield To Silence Accusers Of Sexual Harassment

How is it that only one woman has come forward to name an Illinois politician as a sexual harasser even though 300+ signed a letter? Is the General Assembly following in the ranks of Congress and making victims jump through hoops to end up frustrated with the process and retract their complaints? Are the legislators on both sides looking for this to quiet down so they can all save their seats? Denise Rotheimer, victim rights advocate and accuser of State Sen. Ira Silverstein of sexual harassment, joins Dan and Amy to discuss if the Inspector General will ever investigate her complaint.

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Proft: Dan and Amy, and that story that Mike Scott was reporting about, that Veterans' Home in Quincy...good reporting, WBEZ Dave McKinney and Tony Arnold on that. Since July of 2015, 13 residents of that home in Quincy have died from Legionnaires Disease. Jacobson: Oh my gosh... Proft: 11 families now suing the state for negligence. This...I mean...Legionnaires...this is a matter of...of like, cleanliness in that facility. Jacobson: Cleanliness, yeah. They don't have a fountain in that facility, either. Proft: So, we've spent a lot of time and rightly so talking about VA hospitals and their failure to provide the service and medical care that our veterans are guaranteed and have earned, and we seem to have the same thing going on in the state. Rauner...Governor Rauner...where is he? Jeanne Ives saying that if Rauner can't manage a 200 acre facility with 250 clients, then he really isn't in charge, as he has previously said. This is big, it's a big issue. The state fai...at the state level, failing our military men and women. There's also another seeming failure going on, and have you noticed since the allegations started, allegations of sexual misconduct against high-profile individuals in media and entertainment and politics, since they started...we were expecting that the floodgates would open in Illinois too. Jacobson: Yeah! Because there were so many rumblings of people who wanted to tell their stories, but we've really only had one person publicly come forward. Proft: Well right, we had...you had 300 women sign a letter, and we've had one woman so far in testimony for a hearing for a specific piece of legislation, make an accusation about a specific politician, state senator Ira Silverstein. Denise Rotheimer accusing Silverstein of pursuing her while she was just trying to pursue legislation on behalf of her daughter, who is the victim of a sexual crime. And the result of that was a couple of things. One, without admitting any guilt, Silverstein was removed from Senate Democrat leadership, and from his committee chairmanship. He's still in the Senate. And then two, we find out that Denise Rotheimer's complaint that she filed to the Legislative Inspector General's office last November hadn't been acted upon, because there is no... Jacobson: Because there is NO Legislative Inspector General! Proft: There wasn't until two weeks ago! So, and then we find out from another legislator that there's more than two dozen complaints of one nature or another, some ostensensibly including allegations of sexual misconduct by members of the General Assembly, that have also just lain there, collecting dust. And so, what's happened since these revelations? No one else has come forward, they hurry through legislation, mandatory sexual harassment training for all the legislators, but we don't have any action on the release of those complaints, even with the accusers' names redacted, and we don't have any action on...are we waiving any time restrictions, because of the General Assembly's failure to have a Legislative Inspector General? Which was...and was that purposeful? So they could have this kind of non-partisan combine, hat tip John Kass, non-aggression pact? "If you allow us to protect our bad actors, we'll allow you to protect your bad actors."? Is that what's going on? What's going on? There's a task force, a House task force, that has had hearings...so where are we? For more on this topic, we're going to talk to the one woman who HAS come forward, who made those accusations against state senator Ira Silverstein. She is Denise Rotheimer, Denise thanks for joining us again, appreciate it. Rotheimer: Thank you. Thanks for having me again. Proft: So, there's been a couple of sexual harassment task force hearings, have you participated in those hearings? Rotheimer: I believe those are closed to the public. I've watched them online...I listen to the hearings. Proft: Well, why didn't you go before the task force to tell your story? Rotheimer: They won't allow me, because I'm an active case. And so being an active case, I can't even speak with the members of the Ethics Commission, which I understand. So as an alternative, to be heard, I've been trying to reach out to Leader Durkin, and express the concerns I have while going through this process, because what I've learned since testifying at that hearing for prohibiting sexual harassment is that I have no right. And it's very scary to be put in a situation I was once in back in 2003 when my daughter was raped, and I don't want to go through that kind of trauma, being railroaded again. So I'm just not... Proft: Well okay, well...so, on the legislative Ethics Commission, so let me know, the Legislative Ethics Commission...are they charged with making recommendations to the Legislative Inspector General for pursuing investigations? Rotheimer: How the process works is THEY get the complaint, then they give the authority to the Legislative Inspector General to investigate. So the Legislative Inspector General has to get approval from the Legislative Ethics Commission to investigate, which NO other agency has to do. Legislative Inspector Generals of the other state agencies like Treasurer's Office, Comptroller, Governor, they can just investigate a complaint they receive. My complaint was actually referred by the Executive General's Office of the Governor to Senate President Cullerton. It didn't even get to the Legislature, it was first handed to him. And then he said, after my testimony and all that, that they referred it to the Legislative Inspector General, knowing that there was no one there. Proft: This is like the game that Congress is playing! Jacobson: Yeah, but this seems worse, it seems a little more unorganized. So, how many times have you had to testify, or tell your story to people? Rotheimer: Well back in November of 2016, I went directly to Cullerton's office, and when I was being ignored on the status of my complaint, I went to my state senator. She then stopped returning my call or giving me any follow-up. So really, I was just silenced way back then, until I testified for Senate Bill 402 on Halloween in support of that bill, and I briefly touched on my experience to support that bill, and then after that they got the inspector general. I met with her for two and a half hours, I wasn't comfortable in the situation because I'm already not trusting anyone, for obvious reasons. So she just kind of confirmed for me that I need to have my own voice. So I'm just trying to figure out how I can be heard by the Legislative Ethics Commission, who actually determines the outcome of the case. Proft: Well, how they do that without hearing from the accuser? Rotheimer: Well, that's the thing! I've read the operation rules, it's about 13 pages long, not one word is mentioned in there about the complainant, or the accuser. So, there was never an intent to give a voice to the person actually making the complaint. Proft: Well, that's remarkable...it's...it's ABSURD, because not only should you hear from the accuser, and be able to query the accuser, but also in your case, it's not like you're asking for any special treatment! "I don't want my name disclosed, I don't want anybody in the room, I want this to be closed to the public", "I'm Denise Rotheimer, I've got this complaint. I've been trying to pursue this complaint FOR A YEAR, through all these avenues. I've been given the run-around. I just want to testify to what I...what happened to me, before this commission, and I'm there to answer questions", and they're uninterested! I mean...what is that? Rotheimer: Well, they don't even want to hear it, is the point, just like they didn't want to do anything about the complaint I filed last year. All Spring Session, even up to Senate Bill 402 was authored and filed by Senate President Cullerton, there was no intention of ever filling the vacancy, KNOWING there was a live, active complaint! They didn't even want to go there! It was only because I spoke out that they had no choice. So, I'm not under the impression that they care or take my complaint seriously, at all. Because if they did, they would have filled the vacancy before they filed Senate Bill 402. Jacobson: Well, what do you think should happen to state senator Ira Silverstein? Or what do you think he should do? Rotheimer: I think we should BOTH have the right to due process. He is afforded already the right to due process, he has rights, he gets representation, he even has relief. So if there's an appeal, he's fined for any reason, he can appeal that. I get absolutely NOTHING. So what I would like to see happen is a fair playing field. Let me have an opportunity to be heard. It's very important that I'm heard, and it's also important to be cross-examined, you know, to have them ask any questions, because you're not going to know the hostile environment that I was in until you hear from me. Proft: I'll tell ya, this is just...it's...here's what I think is happening. Jacobson: It's a hot mess. Proft: Here's what I think is happening. I think this is fairly straightforward because these people down there are not all that smart. "Sexual harassment training, we'll mandate that, we'll rush through some legislation, then we'll get...since we've been called out on not having a Legislative Inspector General, we'll put somebody in that post. Keep the complaints that have been sitting there untended to for a year, just keep those behind closed doors, push those off. Let's keep those until at least March...", and then they'll say "at least get past November." This is just about protecting everybody's hindquarters for elections..."and you don't go after names that have been rumored about, and we won't go after names on your side that have been rumored about. And we'll just kind of protect everybody, close ranks. If Denise calls, don't answer her." Her Democratic state senator won't answer, the House Republican leader won't answer...this is the bi-partisan combine, self-survival so the floodgates DO NOT open, and that all of the bad actors down there...and it's NOT just Ira Silverstein I can GUARANTEE you that! So all of them are protected and they find a way maybe at some point to quietly move on without being held to account. That's what I think is happening. Rotheimer: If they really wanted people to speak out and come forward and go through this process, they would afford them with some basic rights: a right to notification, a right to information, a right to some level of participation, even a right to representation. We have absolutely, as complaints, ZERO. So you're...my first conversation with a reporter, I asked her, "What rights do I have?" She said "None that I can think of." I called Lida Jerkins (?) office, I said "Can you explain to me why I'm going through a process that does not afford me any rights?" And he said "I understand what you're saying, I don't have an answer to your question." He referred me to the operational rules. Proft: Yeah, this is...this is like what's happening in Congress. You have to go through all these hoops, because they want to frustrate you, they want to tire you out. The only thing we don't have, or we don't know we have yet maybe, are these secret, clandestine, taxpayer-funded sexual harassment settlements. We'll see if those are ultimately a part of this story like they are in Illinois like they are nationally as well. Denise, thanks so much again for joining us, and for your continued willingness to speak, to publicly speak out and try to break this thing loose. Because there's another two dozen complaints that we should see. Absolutely. Denise, Denise Rotheimer, Victim Rights Advocate, we appreciate your time and we'll continue on this story. Thanks for joining us. Rotheimer: Thank you, thank you and have a good day. Jacobson: And she joined us on our Turnkey Dot Pro Answer Line.

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The Real Deplorables

Al Franken, accused by several women of inappropriate behavior said he would resign despite his repeated assertions he did nothing wrong. But if he did nothing wrong---why is he resigning? Because he is a spineless preener, hypocrite and sycophant. He can’t bear the idea that his colleagues would shun him---or that people would look at him askew. Pat Hughes calls out the real deplorables in this week's Two Minute Warning.

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Media's Hypocrisy On Sexual Abuse Allegations

Is Franken already back? Is the "iconic" (per Nancy Pelosi) Conyers on his way out? How are certain people in the journalism world getting promotions when they are now getting accused of harassment and “were known” to engage in sexual misconduct? Investigative Journalist and author of “The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think and How You Vote,” Sharyl Attkisson joins Dan and Amy to discuss. 

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Dan Proft: Top of the morning, Dan and Amy and Al Franken’s back and John Conyers may be on his way out Amy. Amy: Oh yeah, Al Franken stepped down yesterday with only local reporters from Minneapolis after he’s been hiding out for ten days. Say that he’s sorry but he is going to continue to go to work. Al Franken: I can’t say that that hasn’t happened. I take thousands and thousands of pictures, we sometimes (indecipherable) in chaotic situations. I can’t say I haven’t done that and I am very sorry if these women experienced that. A: So he can’t say whether or not he’s touched women’s butts when they pose for pictures. D: Sure. A: He doesn’t remember touching that one woman’s buttocks, but he can’t say whether or not it’s happened before. D: You take thousands of pictures, you can’t keep track of everyone you grope and everyone you don’t grope. I mean who can keep track of all that? A: Body parts are in different places on different people, Dan. D: There’s no question about it, it’s a real conundrum Senator Franken finds himself in as does John Conyers. Now it’s interesting, we just talked to Noah Rothman from Commentary. He suggests Conyers should step down because, I didn’t realize this because he’s got he believes he’s losing his faculties like he’s got early onset-well not so early A: He’s got dementia. D: He’s an old man, but yeah he’s got dementia A: He’s had it for years, and people are protecting him. D: Well protecting him over the weekend on the Sunday talkies was Nancy Pelosi the iconic John Conyers she told Chuck Todd on Meet the Press. Chuck Todd: You said there’s now a zero tolerance. John Conyers, what does that mean for him? Is he in or out? Nancy Pelosi: Let’s say we are strengthened by due process. Just because someone is accused and was it one accusation, is it two? I think there has to be John Conyers is an icon in our country. He’s done a great deal to protect women. The Violence Against Women Act which the left wing right wing is now quoting me as praising him for his work on that and he did great work on that, but the fact is, as John reviews his case, which he knows which I don’t, I believe he Chuck Todd: Why don’t you- Nancy Pelosi: I believe Chuck Todd: How is it that- Nancy Pelosi: Excuse me, may I finish my sentence Chuck Todd: Sure, sure Nancy Pelosi: I believe that he will do the right thing. Chuck Todd: And is the right thing what, resign? Nancy Pelosi: He will do the right thing in terms of what he knows about his situation, that he’s entitled to due process but women are entitled to due process as well. Chuck Todd: He got it, he took advantage of a situation where he had an- the rules of Congress, and I know you guys wanna change these rules, but he got to hide his settlement, he got to, his accusers had to go through all sorts of craziness, so why is he entitled to new due process in this case? Nancy Pelosi: Well I know, we are talking about what we have heard. I’ve asked the Ethics Committee to review that. He has said h’d be open, he will cooperate Chuck Todd: Do you believe his accusers? Nancy Pelosi: Excuse me? Chuck Todd: Do you believe John Conyers’ accusers? Nancy Pelosi: I don’t know who they are, do you? They have not really come forward and that Chuck Todd: You don’t know if you believe the accusations? Nancy Pelosi: That’s for the Ethics Committee to review, but I believe he understands what is at stake here and he will do the right thing. D: Yeaaah, when political interests run into your erstwhile feminism, right Representative Pelosi? Yeah, by the way, there’s a celebrity perv apology generator now, have you seen it? A: No, I haven’t. D: This could also be used by members of congress. A: Celebrity perv policy- what is it? D: Celebrit perv policy generator, it’s a widget that some people created, Rob Sheridan, Scott McCaughey, Dana Schwartz- For example, this should be laminated in like a wallet sized card that members of congress, the DC press corp, and Hollywood could carry around with them. I’ll give you an example, here’s how you apologize. It’s sort of like what you heard from Franken, some of these women have experienced something that they didn’t enjoy, I’m sorry for that. “As someone who grew up in a different era, harassment is completely unacceptable, especially when people find out about it. At the time I believed that my sociopathic manipulation of the 22 year old in my office was consensual and of course now I realize my behavior was wrong. In conclusion, I will not change anything about my actions or behavior.” Pretty good. There are some good ones there. There’s some specific for the Golden Globes parties… A: Right Oh great. D: Yeah it’s very very good, very creative. Alright, for more on this topic of a serious nature, we’re pleased to be joined by our friend, Cheryl Atkinson, investigative journalist, author of The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think, and How You Vote Cheryl Atkinson: Thanks for having me. D: So you penned a piece for The Hill, how the sex abuse allegations, some of which we were just talking about there with respect to Franken and Conyers but many others- exposed the media’s hypocrisy on Trump. Explain your contention. C: Well that headline was picked of course by The Hill, you know we don’t write our own headlines D: Right C: That was their takeaway. My takeaway sort of my intention was how did certain how are certain people in our profession being promoted and hired in the first place when there are widely known things about them. What does our profession value even as we’re writing about the shortfalls of important political figures for example what’s happening in our own house. And I highlight the case of the New York Times Reporter Glen Thrush who’s under investigation for you know misconduct allegations and before the New York Times hired Glen Thrush, they already knew from Wikileaks documents that he had pre approved improperly in my view and unethically, preapproved stories with Hillary’s campaign manager and done things like that, called himself a hack in internal emails jokingly but only half jokingly and yet this is a guy they thought was fit to hire at the New York Times and promote to Politico to report fairly and impartially on the president and the things that he has written about the president are very similar to as you see in my article to the things that he’s being accused of. So it’s just a question I wanted to raise about about our profession. A: As a journalist and someone who’s worked in several newsrooms, have you ever experienced sexual harassment? C: Oh my gosh I mean by what we’re defining today as sexua harrassment I think when I talk with my friends you wonder where to begin in that discussion because- constantly, but I would say it didn’t hurt me in terms of you know I made I think women learn how to kind of deal with it, handle it, get around it, and move on so that it doesn’t hurt their careers, and I think I come from a time, I’m 56 years old when and I’ll just tell you one quick story, I don’t think I put this in any off my books, who cares, but my first job when I was 20-whatever, early 20’s, 21 or so the general manager who I think is deceased now by the way, but this is down in Florida, called me in when he heard I was getting married and he threw $40 down on the table and told me to buy a wedding present for myself and I thought “hmm okay” and I picked up the cash and he said “buy yourself a bikini” and he chuckled and then he says “take a picture of yourself in, bring it back to me, show me the picture.” A: So creepy C: And I remember going home telling my finance, my husband now “do you think he’s serious?” my husband’s like “yes he’s serious don’t obviously don’t do it” but it was just awkward I mean from awkward to then one of the quick one in Orlando interviewing for the job the assistant news director when he was gonna hire me as a producer and I said well will I have the next opening as a reporter which I really wanted to be and he pointed out of the newsroom and said “see that girl there?” I said yeah he said “you know how bad she wants to be a reporter? She would lay down on this desk and let me f her right now.” He used the word. And again I’m like “why is he saying this to me?” He also invited me to spend the night at his house, and I kept saying “I only live an hour away I can drive” and you know just things like that are commonplace I think in our industry. D: Going back to the media, well sticking with the media I guess I should say and particularly someone that’s a couple of generations ahead of you, but Charlie Rose. This may be the biggest name to fall so far and again we find out when one woman comes forward and sort of breaks the seal and then people follow, but a lot of people protected Charlie Rose, is that fair? Or were intimidated by Charlie Rose? I mean part of this is trying to figure out where the lines are of culpability. Isn’t it if you’re an enabler or protector you just kind of legitimately describe yourself as being intimidated and not wanting to have your career suffer as a result of stepping in when someone’s acting inappropriately. C: Well when everybody around you so admires somebody as they do or did Charlie Rose and speaks of him so highly while under their breath saying with a chuckle “what a partier he is” you know I never heard by the way these allegations against him with women or with unwanted advances with women, I heard he stays up all night, parties like a 20 year old and chuckle chuckle chuckle you know and are you going to be the one if something does happen to you again in your profession that everybody looks at because you said something bad about you know the fun guy on the block that everybody likes and this is I would say it’s not terribly uncommon again there’s way more things I’ve heard and I think as other people would say shoes that will fall because it’s just so incredibly common and I’m not talking about rape, I’m talking about improper and perhaps unethical activity and I think there are distinctions between all of these things but in our industry these sort of unwanted advances and pressure that sort of thing I think is exceedingly common. D: All right, Cheryl Atkinson, she is of course a celebrated investigative reporter, journalist the book The Smear: How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think, and How You Vote Cheryl thanks as always for joining us, appreciate it. C: Thanks for having me

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