ATC W/ Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)

On this edition of Against The Current, Sen. Ted Cruz sits down with Dan Proft to discuss the lessons he took away from his POTUS run, his assessment of President Trump's performance eight months in, the four policy priorities he identifies for the GOP-controlled Congress and whether free market conservatism is still where the center of gravity exists within the party. Cruz doesn't just take the positions. He makes the arguments. And he does so on this special installment of Against The Current.


Pastor Rafael Cruz: In a One-on-One Race Ted Beats Trump

Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of Sen. Ted Cruz, chatted with Dan & Amy about the campaign in studio this morning and took calls from listeners.

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Dan Proft: Dan Proft and Amy Jacobson, and Amy, you just heard at the top there, Carly Fiorina – big endorsement yesterday for Ted Cruz – she was at a rally with him, saying that it’s time for the party tonight around Cruz; also, Ted Cruz was in North Carolina, part of these Competing Town Halls Fox News Channel did in which he was interviewed by Megyn Kelly, a ruckus crowd, and he had some good news about tonight’s debate. Megyn Kelly: You said the campaign has gone to the gutter. What do you make of it? Ted Cruz: Well, listen, I think everyone is fed up with personal insults, with just ad hominem attacks; listen I have no views whatsoever on any part of Donald Trump’s anatomy. Amy Jacobson: So it’ll be anatomy free? Thursday night GOP debates Dan Proft: I think yes, because I can’t stomach any more discussion on Donald Trump’s anatomy either. We’re pleased now to be joined in studio by the man who taught Ted Cruz everything he knows. He’s Ted Cruz’s dad, Pastor Rafael Cruz. Pastor Cruz, thanks so much for joining us! Rafael Cruz: Dan, great to be with you, and Amy, I don’t if I taught him everything he knows, I don’t believe that. Dan Proft: Right, I guess that the story is that he memorized the Constitution when he was in the womb, right? Rafael Cruz: Well, he memorized the Constitution at 13 years old, but I didn’t have anything to do with that. We introduced him to an organization called the Free Enterprise Institute; first, he was reading all sorts like Adam Smith, and John Locke, and von Mises, and Hayek, and Bastiat, and Milton Friedman. Dan Proft: The kind of reading that every pre-adolescent does. Rafael Cruz: Every fourteen year old does. But then, this group created a group of five kids; they called them the Constitutional Corroborators; Ted was one of those five; they hired a memory expert and got those five kids to memorize the Constitution, and for the next four years, my son Ted gave approximately 80 speeches on free market economics and the Constitution. Amy Jacobson: At the age of thirteen? Rafael Cruz: From thirteen to seventeen. Dan Proft: Amy, he must have had a beat off the girls, because nothing gets girls into them faster than free market economics. Amy Jacobson: It’s hotter and sexy, yeah, I mean, it’s cool. Rafael Cruz: I met some of his high school buddies not too long ago, and they said, ‘You know, Ted was kind of weird; while we talked about football, he talked about Ronald Reagan’. Amy Jacobson: So what do you think of this large growing coalition behind your son? Obviously, Glenn Beck, Carly Fiorina; word is today that Jeb Bush might be supporting your son publicly for the first time. Rafael Cruz: I have not heard that; that’s news to me, but that’s welcomed news; sounds great; I think, what happens is, it quickly becomes a two man race. I think it is obvious now that it’s going to be Trump and Cruz, and the sooner we get to a two man race, the sooner we’re going to get somewhere. I think what happens is people of faith, conservatives, constitutionalists, are realizing that they have to coalesce about the one candidate that can just take America forward, and that candidate, I’m convinced, is my son, Ted Cruz. Dan Proft: You know, it’s interesting, there has been some pushback on Cruz saying ‘Well, he’s too focused on religion; he speaks too much about the Judeo-Christian values upon which this nation was founded, that it limits its appeal’; interesting tweet I just got from Rob Jewar: ‘I’m an atheist and I made over 300 calls yesterday for Ted Cruz; BS he doesn’t reach a range of voters’; and I wonder, since you speak a lot about this matter of Christians getting involved in the political process, how you respond to this idea that Ted Cruz has a limited reach because of his focus on traditional values and Constitutional principles? Rafael Cruz: Well, I think that this tweet that you received speaks volumes about it. Ted is a champion of religious freedom; now the first amendment of the Constitution gives us freedom of religion, and that means you also have the freedom not to believe, or the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and the government needs to stay away from our spiritual life, actually from our lives, so together; like Ronald Reagan said it, ‘Government is not the solution; Government is the problem’; we don’t need more government, we need less government, and one of the things that my son wants to do in the White House is cut down the size, power and scope of the Federal Government, just restrict it to what the Constitution says; article 1, section 8 of the Constitution only enumerates 18 powers to the Federal Government. Anything that is not in article 1, section 8, the Federal Government has no business being involved in, and all those powers should go to the State. Dan Proft: See, you’re playing possum, you memorized the Constitution too. Rafael Cruz: A little bit. Amy Jacobson: I think he taught you the Constitution. So you said he wants to cut down the size of government. Oh, go back to the Constitution. Did he teach you about the Constitution? Rafael Cruz: Absolutely; I actually got involved in the Constitution from being inspired by him and going to all these speeches where he had memorized the Constitution, and actually prior to that; when Ted was nine I was very involved in the Reagan campaign, and I helped mobilize millions of people of faith to help elect Ronald Reagan, whom I considered the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln, and so when my son was nine, he got a dose of conservative politics from a Christian worldview, everyday for a year, at the dinner table. So that was his indoctrination into conservative politics, and of course, the Free Enterprise Institute - those four years immersed in the Constitution, and free markets, and limited government, and the rule of law – shaped his life. Dan Proft: And you’re getting a dose of indoctrination into Illinois politics; the last day you were in an African-American church in Dalton, in Bensenville yesterday, you’re leaving here and you’re going in Central and Southern Illinois, so you’re doing a lot of campaign stops on behalf of your son, Senator Cruz, and I wonder what you find most enjoyable about traveling the country being a surrogate for your son, and what you find least enjoyable about the process? Rafael Cruz: I think the most enjoyable thing is meeting people; America is such a wealth of different personalities, different people, different ideas, and I’m a people person, just like my son; I enjoy being with people and getting to know people; you know, life is all about relationships, and the more relationships we can have, the more people we get involved with, the more we understand one another. I would say the thing that is the least enjoyable is the grueling timetable. Sometimes we go 26 hours a day. Amy Jacobson: And from here you’re going to Missouri. Rafael Cruz: That’s correct, and then to North Carolina. Amy Jacobson: And sometimes you said you wake up and you don’t know what state you’re in, or what city? Traveling so much… Rafael Cruz: That’s right. Well, it’s a different hotel every night. Dan Proft: Keeps your spine on your toes. Rafael Cruz: Absolutely. Dan Proft: Where do you see the race in a Ted Cruz versus Donald Trump choice? What’s the value proposition of that choice? A vote for Ted Cruz, as compared to Donald Trump, is a vote for what? Rafael Cruz: I would say, first of all, if you look at Trump, you don’t know what you’re getting. You don’t know what you’re getting because nobody knows what he believes; I mean, he changes from day to day, he even says ‘Well, I can change, I change all the time, I can change to anything I want, I can change in a moment’. I think Jimmy Carter put it clear when he said ‘Well you know, if I had to chose between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, I would choose Trump, because Trump is malleable; that means you can mold him into whatever you want’, and he said then, ‘But you know that guy Ted Cruz? He really believes what he says’; so I think that’s the great difference; Ted is a constitutional conservative; with Ted you know exactly what you’re going to get; Ted has done 100% of what he said he was going to do before he got elected, so you can take his word to the bank. I think it boils down to one word, and that word is trust. You can trust Ted to do what he said he’s going to do. Dan Proft: We’re talking to Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of presidential candidate Ted Cruz, could we hold you over for one minute and take some calls? We got some callers I think that want to talk to you as well. Why don’t we do that and we’ll come back and take your calls with Pastor Rafael Cruz. Dan Proft: Dan and Amy, we’re talking to Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of Ted Cruz, and Pastor Cruz, I don’t know how to break it to you, but there’s a lot of people that think you may have a political career ahead of you; text ‘I like Ted Cruz, but I love his dad’; now text from 779, ‘Not a Cruz, supporter, but his dad sounds like a really good guy and with a cool accent; you should narrate Ted’s ads’; maybe a voiceover career, maybe a political career. Rafael Cruz: I’ll tell you, I’m having a lot of fun just traveling around the country, meeting people and making the case why Ted Cruz should be our next president. Amy Jacobson: And it’s – real quick – a great story how Ted met Heidi when they were both working for Bush. Rafael Cruz: Absolutely; Ted was domestic policy advisor for George W., and she was economic policy advisor, and Ted got stung the day she came to work, and he says it took him three days to get up the courage to ask her for a date. Five months later, they were married. Amy Jacobson: That’s great. And six marriages came out of that campaign? Rafael Cruz: Eight marriages came out of that. Dan Proft: The Ted Cruz joke, right? Rafael Cruz: Yeah, he said, ‘I don’t know whatever may say, for us W. will always be a uniter, and not a divider’. Dan Proft: Now, to that point, and because Ted Cruz, he shows humor, he’s kind of a dry sense of humor, which I kind of appreciate, but there’s so much been said about Cruz, that he isn’t liked in DC, and he’s not a likeable person, and all of that. How do you respond to those charges? Rafael Cruz: Well, let me tell you why he isn’t liked by some of the people in the Senate and the House, and it is this; unfortunately, there are too many corrupt politicians in both parties; they want the gravy train to continue, they want to preserve the status quo, and you probably heard my son say that he is running against the Washington Cartel – all these corrupt politicians in both parties; and they don’t want anything to change. You know, we got people in the Senate that have been there for 30 years, and they want to be there another 20; they don’t want to relinquish that power; we need to change; too many politicians think that we work for them, when in reality, they work for us; one of the things that I love about my son, he truly has a servant’s heart. He understands servant leadership; he wants to go to the White House to be a servant of we, the people, a servant of every American; he understands that that’s his role – to work for the American people, not the other way around. Dan Proft: That’s a little bit esoteric, but that’s how I view Trump versus Cruz – philosopher king vs. servant leader – and there’s a big difference; by the way, in terms of ballot appeal, Ted Cruz has the support of Caitlyn Jenner and me; that can’t get bigger tent than that. Let’s go to the lines, let’s go to Shaun, in Elmwood Park; you’re on Chicago’ Morning Answer. Rafael Cruz: Hello, Shaun! Shaun: Mr. Cruz, it’s really a privilege, it’s a privilege to speak to you, and I have to tell you, I’ve been appreciating your son for the fundamental capitalist and the originalist views he has, since he’d been Bush’s handpicked stooge for the Senate seat he now holds. Now it is in that problem that we have, that blind allegiance to a party that has allowed the bastardization of capitalism and the erosion of the citizen’s civil liberty. So with that being said, in the even he is not the nominee, I will not support Trump, under no circumstance, and I am goingto ask you to ask your son to run as an originalist, to run as a third party, because Mr. Cruz, it is through us compromising our fundamentals that has lead this to this path, where senators like Mitch McConnell are worth 40 million, or they collaborate with Harry Reid, or they go and become lobbies after their careers. Dan Proft: Alright, Shaun, thanks for the call and the questions; so the question about Reagan running as a third party if he’s not the nominee. Rafael Cruz: Let me say this, I do not like the idea of a third party, because having a third party is handling the presidency to Hillary Clinton, and Hillary Clinton will destroy this country, and so I think the idea of a third party is really a bad idea, but I’ll tell you what; my son is not running to lose to Donald Trump. If it gets to a two man race, the polls show that Ted would beat Donald Trump by seventeen points. So we’re running to win; we’re not running to see Donald Trump in the White House, but to see Ted Cruz in the White House, and if it gets to be a two man race, Ted Cruz will be the next President of the United States of America. Dan Proft: Alright, Kent from Montgomery, you’re on Chicago’s Morning Answer. Kent: Pastor Cruz, your son has my vote… Rafael Cruz: Thank you, sir! Kent: But if we can see a Cruz cruise ticket as true Chicagoan, you will get two votes from me. Rafael Cruz: Well, I’ll tell you what, in the first place, that’s unconstitutional; you know you cannot have the President and the Vice-President from the same state; that is not constitutional, so… Amy Jacobson: And you know the Constitution. Dan Proft: Relocate to Oklahoma! Rafael Cruz: And actually, I’m having too much fun just supporting him and seeing him rise; I think that he would make a wonderful President, and I know he would abide by the Constitution, and the rule of law, and as I said a minute ago, he will be a servant to every American man, woman and child, and get the heavy boot of the Federal Government from off their necks, so that people can achieve their dreams – by cutting down taxes, cutting down regulations, and just allowing everyone to fulfill their dreams. Amy Jacobson: Don’t you think he would make a great US Supreme Court Justice? Just in the chance that Donald Trump wins, I would hope he would be that or Attorney General. Rafael Cruz: Well, obviously he’s a constitutionalist, like so is Mike Lee, and so is Ron Paul. They are the three strong constitutionalists in the Senate, but I’ll tell you what, my son is running to win. And if people of faith, if people of courage, if conservatives, constitutionalists, people that want to see their dreams fulfilled and see an environment in America where everyone can achieve their dreams and leave their children and grandchildren a better American, the man that can help provide the environment for that to occur is Senator Ted Cruz. Dan Proft: Let’s squeeze another caller, and we Pat in Midlothian. Hey, Pat. Pat: Hey, reverend Cruz, I just want to let you know I’m behind your son; it’s about time we get somebody who has the respect for the Constitution, and I plan on working the phones for him in Homer Glenn this weekend. Rafael Cruz: Well, thank you so very much, I’ll tell you what, we need to all unite. You know the Bible says in Acts 1:14 that those 120 that were in the operating room were together in one accord. We must be in one accord. I want to ask every person in the State of Illinois to coalesce around Senator Ted Cruz. If we unite, we will get America back to what America was destined to be – a land of opportunity for every American, without distinction that everyone will have the opportunity to see their dreams realize. There are so many young people that feel that when they finish college they’re going to have to go home, because they can’t find a job. How about if that changes by getting rid of taxes and regulations, and the interference from the Federal Government; someone leaves college with a half a dozen job offers, and they can receive entrepreneurship, again, create millions upon millions of new jobs by creating small businesses. I’ll tell you, that is the environment that Ted Cruz will provide for every American. Dan Proft: Alright, he is Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of Ted Cruz; Pastor Cruz, thanks so much for joining us today; safe travels as you make your way throughout Illinois, and then to the other states that primary on Tuesday. Rafael Cruz: Thank you, Dan and Amy; great to be with both of you, and God bless you, and God bless America, and God bless the great state of Illinois!

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Is Donald Trump unstoppable after Super Tuesday?

Dan Proft discussed Super Tuesday on CBS Chicago

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Host: I’m joined now by republican political analyst Dan Proft, and Dan, love him or hate him, Donald Trump has a big night; let’s take a look at the map and we’ll talk about it a little bit. He win Massachusetts, Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and Arkansas; Ted Cruz wins Texas and Oklahoma; were you surprised by how strong Donald Trump was? Dan Proft: No, I mean this is a continuation of the last three primaries – two primaries and a caucus – he wins in the South, he wins in New England, it happened again tonight, and here is the bottom line. This is a movement. Even Donald Trump couldn’t stop Donald Trump at this moment. It’s psychological, not substantive, and that’s what people need to understand if they want to get a sense of what’s happening: people who live conservative lives small see, who have been hurt financially and who’ve been ridiculed culturally by fat cat Republicans Beltway elites, and they’re revolting. This is full revolt. Host: What about Ted Cruz, though? He finishes second; he finishes with two wins tonight. He’s won three caucus and a couple of primaries overall. Dan Proft: I think Ted Cruz now is in a better position to reestablish himself as the Trump alternative, to make the case tomorrow that I’m actually the alternative to Trump, not Marco Rubio, because you know, I’m winning states and Marco Rubio isn’t. That’s the opportunity that Cruz has. Host: Alright, let’s take a look at an exit-poll from Georgia to give you an idea to just where the Republicans heads are at, and they said they want their next president to be outside of politics. 52% said that. 38% said they wanted it to have a political expertise. So no question, a bad night for Marco Rubio, and he spoke to his supporters just moments ago. Marco Rubio: Two weeks from tonight, right here in Florida, we are going to send a message loud and clear. We are going to send a message that the party of Lincoln and Reagan, and the presidency of the United States will never be held by a con artist! Host: Now I know there’re a couple of races still outstanding tonight; one of them we saw in Minnesota, the caucuses there – Rubio’s ahead, but as yet has won nothing. Dan Proft: Rubio’s won fewer states than Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders everybody agrees is done. Marco Rubio is not in a strong position yet; two weeks from now they go to Florida, and Florida’s probably his little big horn – he’s out of the race after Florida. Host: And he’s down by a significant… Dan Proft: 20 in Florida. This Donald Trump movement, like it or dislike it, is real. Host: Dan Proft, you heard it from him, our republican strategist; thanks for the time, Dan! Dan Proft: Thank you!


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Dan & Amy Interview Rafael Cruz, Father of Presidential Candidate Sen. Ted Cruz

Pastor Rafael Cruz, father of Sen. Ted Cruz, discussed his new book "A Time for Action," talked about fleeing the oppressive government in Cuba, making his way in America and now supporting his son's candidacy for POTUS.

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Dan: . . .Dan and Amy. So Amy, Ted Cruz offered a media avail in Iowa yesterday to respond to some of the shots he's taking from Trump. Here's what Ted Cruz had to say about Donald Trump falling out of love with Ted Cruz: "Now, those are meaningful differences, those are substantive differences. I will continue to saying Donald's [inaudible] personally. I think he's bold, I think he's brash, I think he's energized. A lot of people to focus on this election, and that's a wonderful thing. But policy distinctions are what we should be talking about, and it's what the voters deserve." Dan: So Cruz basically said, "I'm not taking the bait, I'm not going to go into the name-calling, I'm not going to respond to him saying I'm a nasty person and no one likes me." That kind of the the playground taunts. I'm going to focus on our policy differences." And yesterday, even though we're still a week away, six days away, from the conquest Amy: 167 hours [inaudible]. Dan: Thank you for watching the clock. Cruz essentially made what I think is his final argument to voters at this media avail. Listen. "There is a volcanic frustration that those majorities don't honor the promises we made to the voters. Well, in this presidential election, the people of Iowa have a chance to make an assessment. Who can you trust? And I'll tell you what I'm advising, people. Here, which is don't listen to what any of us say. Don't listen to what I say, don't listen to what Donald Trump says, or anybody else. Instead, look at our records. If you want someone who will stand up against ObamaCare, ask who has stood up against ObamaCare. If you want someone who will stand up against amnesty, don't ask who gives the loudest speeches on amnesty, ask who led the fight to defeat the Rubio-Schumer Gang of Eight amnesty bill. If you want someone to defend life or marriage or religious liberty, ask who has a record of defending life and marriage and religious liberty. And the reason we're seeing Conservatives across the country, and especially here in Iowa, come together is that people are tired of Campaign Conservatives. Those candidates who discover Conservative [inaudible] when they announce their campaign for president. And they're looking for a consistent Conservative. Someone as the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. With me, you know what you're going to get. And I think that's why conservatives are coming together behind our candidate." Dan: I think that's why this Conservative is coming together behind Ted Cruz's candidate. The Consistent Conservative message that's Ted Cruz's final argument in Iowa. I think you're going to hear it the rest of the week. But let's get some more texture and insight into one Sen. Ted Cruz from the man who taught him everything he knows. That's his father, Ptr. Rafael Cruz, who's got a new book called 'A Time for Action: Empowering the Faithful to Reclaim America.' Ptr. Cruz, thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Ptr. Rafael Cruz: Dan, it's so great to be with you. Is it cold in Chicago this morning? Dan: No, it's not bad, actually. It's kind of temperate. Is it cold in Texas? Ptr. Rafael Cruz: No, no, no. I'm in Iowa. Dan: Oh, yeah. Amy: He's an outspoken surrogate campaigning with the son. Dan: I know. We have said that there was a little test just to make sure he's where he's supposed to be. Ptr. Rafael Cruz: I sure am. Dan: All right. So Ptr. Cruz, why don't we start with your story before we get to Ted's? And your story starts in Cuba where you fled the Batista Regime on the Advent of the Castro Revolution? Tell us your story and then how it relates to the message you're trying to deliver in the book. Ptr. Rafael Cruz: Well, that is the way my book starts. It's talking about how I grew up in a very oppressive military dictatorship. As a matter of fact, the revolution started in the high schools, from the universities. So it started with student protest, initially. And then this young, charismatic leader rose up talking about hope and change. His name was Fidel Castro. Dan: Oh, I thought you were talking about 2008. Yes. Okay. Ptr. Rafael Cruz: And we all followed him, not knowing any better. And there is hope with my involvement I was captured, I was in prison, I was tortured. But by the grace of God, I was able to leave Cuba and come to the United States legally on a student visa. And I started at the University of Texas. I paid my way through school working first as a dishwasher, then as a cook. And then when he took over in 1959, I went back to Cuba that summer. And I was shocked. Because the same man that had been talking about hope and change was now talking about how the rich were evil, how they oppressed the poor, about the need to redistribute the wealth, confiscating private property, [abducting?] freedom of [inaudible], freedom of religion. So I left Cuba, [the solution?] never to return again for [inaudible] to be in the greatest country in the [inaudible]. I am so proud to be an American. This is the greatest country on the face of the earth. So I saw firsthand what Communism does to a country. And so when my son was growing up, he was 9 years old when I started working with an organization called The Religious Roundtable. I was at Judeo-Christian organization, but together with moral majority, [inaudible] millions of Christians, people of faith who helped elect Ronald Reagan whom I consider the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln. So when my son, Ted, was 9 years old, he got a dose of conservative politics from a Christian worldview every day for a year when he was growing up. So that's when he started reading, looking at Conservatives [inaudible]. Dan: By 9 years old, I assume Ted Cruz was already briefing Supreme Court Cases. Ptr. Rafael Cruz: Not quite. But I'll tell you again, I explained in detail in my book a time fraction. When [inaudible] turned 14, just entering high school, we introduced him to an organization called The Free Enterprise Institute. So now, he just turned 13, and he's reading, [inaudible] freedom and the federalist papers and the anti-federalist papers. [inaudible] organization creates a group of five kids, they call them the constitutional corroborators. Ted was one of those five. And they hired a [inaudible] expert, they taught them how to memorize the U.S. Constitution. For the next four years, my son, Ted, gave approximately 80 speeches across the state of Texas on free market economics and the constitution. Before my son, Ted, left high school, he was passionate about the constitution, he was passionate about the declaration, about free market, about limited government, about the rule of law and that passion became like fire in his bones. And I'll tell you, Dan, that reason I know my son, Ted Cruz, would not compromise his principles in Washington is that fire [inaudible] life today as it was over 30 years ago. Amy: Now, there's no doubt that your son is the smartest person running for president in the cycle. And how did your time in Cuba and what happened to you shape his political values and his ideology? Ptr. Rafael Cruz: Well, I saw Communism firsthand and Socialism, Communism, Marxism it's all the same, with different labels. It doesn't work. It doesn't work because it destroys individual responsibility. It just makes people lose the dream and just be conform with where the [inaudible] life. When Ted was growing up, I don't know how many times I told him, "You know, Ted, when I lost my freedom in Cuba, I had a place to come. If we lose our freedoms here, where are we going to go?" And you know, Amy, there's no place to go. Dan: And so I guess, with respect to Ted Cruz, how have you viewed the presidential campaign? Again, maybe even take a step back. I know you introduced Ted Cruz to all these great thinkers at an early age and then he chartered his course. Did you ever expect that he would be a senator from Texas and he would be a leading contender for the presidency of the United States? Ptr. Rafael Cruz: Well, Dan, that is the greatness of America. Where else can someone come in with practically no money, not even being able to speak the language, and within one generation, see his son as a U.S. senator and potentially, as the next president of the United States of America? Only in America that can happen. But let's not think about that. I'll tell you what: it's hard to contain the tears from my eyes. This is the greatness of America. America is worth saving. That's why we're all fighting to restore sanity, to restore the constitution, to restore the rule of law we cannot give up on America. And if I want [inaudible] around the one man that has the vision, that has the courage, that has the record, and has the backbone to fight against [inaudible] because of corruption in both parties, then I think if Iowans coalesce, Ted Cruz will be the next president of the United States of America and we will see America's greatest days ahead. Amy: Ptr. Rafael Cruz, how have you handled the mugslinging, the nasty comments sledded against your son? Ptr. Rafael Cruz: Well, that goes with the territory. Jesus even said, He said: "They'd persecuted me, they would persecute you." As a matter of fact, both Ted and I view that mugslinging as: "Well, we must be doing something right when they're coming after us." If you're not making an impact, nobody cares, nobody even responds. It is sad that people have come down to attacking the individual character or the integrity of an individual instead of looking at the policy issues. The substantive difference that there are. Who is best led to lead this country? We're about to engage in electing the next president of the United States the leader of this country. The leader of the free world. We'd better make sure we elect the man that is ruled not by emotions, but by looking at the facts that has the substantive background in the constitution, in the rule of law, in what it takes to govern, and that has a servant's spirit. Dan: We're talking to Ptr. Rafael Cruz, Ted Cruz's father. He's also the author of the new book 'A Time for Action: Empowering the Faithful to Reclaim America.' And I want to get your take on that subtitle Empowering the Faithful to Reclaim America. You've got some specific recommendations for Christians including pastors as to what should be done so that religious freedom and some of the other policy proposals that Ted Cruz is advancing as a candidate are consummated. Ptr. Rafael Cruz: Yes. One of the challenges we've had is that too many people of faith have stayed home and not gotten involved with the political process. And there are few [inaudible] being, "Well, politics is a dirty business. I don't want any part of it." Well, how can we change politics being a dirty business if people of principle are not running for office, if people of principle don't vote? So in my book, A Time for Action, I outlined five action steps. Number 1, make sure that everyone understands that voting is our civic responsibility. So many Christians are not even registered to vote. I don't care if [inaudible] every pastor, every church make sure everyone in your congregation is registered to vote, and then make sure everyone caucus and they caucus for righteousness. They don't vote for addition, they vote conviction. Vote for candidate that stands on the principles that have made America great. And they are those Judeo-Christian principles, those principles that are embedded in our constitution. Number 2, we need to make sure that we share messages even from the Pope that are important to America and that [inaudible] the foundations are being destroyed I'm talking about what the biblical concepts are to restore those foundations. Number 3, we need to encourage Amy: Oh. Dan: Uh-oh. Donald Trump's jamming the signal. What happened to Ptr. Cruz? Amy: He knew. Dan: Number 3 was the key. That was the key one, it's number 3. Amy: I'm waiting! Dan: Oh, we lost Ptr. Rafael Cruz, obviously. Amy: But we could read his book. Dan: His book is 'A Time for Action: Empowering the Faithful to Reclaim America.' Even though Donald Trump cut our line, we appreciate Ptr. Rafael Cruz joining us.

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